Viberg

[jacoavlu]

^^ those are the 4Horsemen x Viberg service boots

[jacoavlu]

Here's another Viberg collab some may like

[jimmy]

thats what i am talking about beats! it's perfect. so they are still around. maybe an option for the IH collab?

@Beatle:

I was looking for a service boot paired with Viberg quality…doesn´t get any better

[jimmy]

for all viberg owners. are they completly waterproof? as in gore-tex waterproof [30min in ankle deep water with out seeping though]

[Geo]

nope

no leather is completely waterproof

good leather, well treated and well looked after can protect your feet from getting soaked up to a point

also joints, stitching etc will all leak to some extent

[jimmy]

30min with out seeping in shoes is considered waterproof. for leather is a double lasing process done by hand which makes like a water proof synthetic sock layer between outer and inner leathers.

just wondering if Viberg does it.

@Geo:

nope

no leather is completely waterproof

good leather, well treated and well looked after can protect your feet from getting soaked up to a point

also joints, stitching etc will all leak to some extent

[Geo]

ah - see what you're driving at . . . my mistake

thought you meant the material itself (when you quoted Gore-Tex) where waterproof is measured via IUP/7, ASTM D2099, ISO 14268 etc . . . not a construction technique and/or multiple layers to prevent water ingress

in that case - not sure if they do/can - my Vibergs are not built that way 

[jimmy]

have you taken your viberg on tramps before? crossing small streams etc
i assume it has a one piece tongue so should still be pretty "water proof"

@Geo:

ah - see what you're driving at . . . my mistake

thought you meant the material itself (when you quoted Gore-Tex) where waterproof is measured via IUP/7, ASTM D2099, ISO 14268 etc . . . not a construction technique and/or multiple layers to prevent water ingress

in that case - not sure if they do/can - my Vibergs are not built that way 

[Geo]

not been on tramps as such with them - just wear my walking boots for that i guess, but they were in plenty snow thro' the winter and the socks got pretty damp - the tongue isn't particularly thick leather compared to the rest

here's a pic if that helps any

[jimmy]

thanks Geo that really helps.

i am pretty keen on the scout with hemp thats on their homepage. but wanted to make sure they're suitable for what i want to use them for.

[Seul]

@jimmy:

thanks Geo that really helps.

i am pretty keen on the scout with hemp thats on their homepage. but wanted to make sure they're suitable for what i want to use them for.

Swimming?..

[Geo]

no problem 

was thinking on what you had asked and here's my experience:

HM forces - leather boots . . . not waterproof; so we had 2 pairs (min)
Hillwalking - leather boots . . . not waterproof although pretty close but was 3mm+ anfibio one-piece upper . . . then discovered Gore-Tex - dry but less breathable than than just leather, so sweatier 
Mountaineering - plastic boots . . . waterproof, but not much use for anything else!
Daywear - leather boots of various types . . . only my Veldtschoen boots could claim to keep the water out for any length of time

Guess what I'm saying is - if you want to stand in a puddle - buy wellies! 

[jimmy]

@Seul:

Swimming?..

only on tuesdays

but seriously hiking and hunting, walking in very wet mud and crossing wide shallow streams is common here when doing these activities.

[Geo]

any good hill walking boot then - I have asolo and scarpa

or these guys do hunting boots too:

http://www.meindl.de/english/

definitely wouldn't be having the hemp on any boot for that purpose

[jimmy]

@Geo:

definitely wouldn't be having the hemp on any boot for that purpose

yeah i know thats why i ask if they do the whole between layer thing so the hemp is just for show. i have a few custom H.S Trask which does the trick but wanted one that looks good for every day and practical.

for no good reason really its not like i walk down the street then suddenly run in to the bushes to hunt hahah….  i am the typical "i want one that does it all"

[Geo]

. . . and why the hell not? 

[Giles]

According to the tracking info, the IH/Viberg collabs have arrived.  Simon is popping round with his camera (and I hope not his swag-bag)…..G

[Geo]

oh hell . . . might be cancelling holidays on an affordability issue

[hectic]

Looking forward to those pics!

[jimmy]

indigo and super black? ???