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    • FOXYF
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      AI-002 raw - first soak: cold soak/warm soak or hot soak - what's your recommendation?

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      • Finn666F
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        ^I think you can answer this question yourself 🙂

        If the presoak fit is a bit tight, then cold soak and so on…

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        • SeulS
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          "It's RAAAWWW!.. You DONKEY!.."

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          • Finn666F
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            ^doesnt matter imo!

            if the presoak fit on a raw pair is a bit on the tighter side and you want to shrink it just a bit, then cold soak…

            the looser the cut is presoak, the hotter the water should be, when you soak! Donkey 😉

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            • SeulS
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              I just wanted to post that - no connection to your earlier post there Finn…

              And yeah: follow Finn's advice, Kaj...

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              • Finn666F
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                okay, it's all good my man ;)…

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                • FOXYF
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                  I got some "interesting" advice earlier today: cold soak in order to not hurt the indigo.

                  unless we are talking "boiling" I would guess the difference between cold and warm might only have an impact on the cotton shrinkage…

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                  • SeulS
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                    Meh - cold soak with vinegar… That supposedly prevents the indigo from bleeding too much... Who knows... Just soak at 40 C° for 45 minutes unless you can't fit in them right now... Then cold soak and put them on whilst they're damp to stretch 'm a bit...

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                    • FOXYF
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                      ^ yeah - what the heck - will do a simple warm soak and break-in while damp.

                      (what's the point in pampering a pair of jeans if you are going to wear them?)

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                        I finally picked up my AI-002 from take5.  NO 24 oz yet so I have to hit them again in June or so.

                        Soooo.. I got a size 34….  glad I did...  POST SOAK it's a SIZE 32!!!  Man, it shrunk so much, it shrunk more then my 005 in a size 33. 
                        It was a HOT soak @ 60C.  Color change was very insignificant post soaking, Just a super tiny hint lighter.

                        If I were to compare fit between the 005 and AI-002, the AI feels a tad more fitted and proportions a little better then the 005. The top block is a little more snug but the thighs a tiny bit looser and more comfortable.  With a few more days wear lets see how much these stretch out...

                        AI-002 and 634SR rotating daily, life is good.  ;D....  until summer when I need to switch to light jeans.

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                        • kit99barK
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                          xx-009 are very interesting too me.  The fit seems similar to a 634s.

                          RAWWAR 2012!

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                          • FOXYF
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                            @thpcgr:

                            I finally picked up my AI-002 from take5.  NO 24 oz yet so I have to hit them again in June or so.

                            Soooo.. I got a size 34….  glad I did...  POST SOAK it's a SIZE 32!!!  Man, it shrunk so much, it shrunk more then my 005 in a size 33. 
                            It was a HOT soak @ 60C.  Color change was very insignificant post soaking, Just a super tiny hint lighter.

                            If I were to compare fit between the 005 and AI-002, the AI feels a tad more fitted and proportions a little better then the 005. The top block is a little more snug but the thighs a tiny bit looser and more comfortable.  With a few more days wear lets see how much these stretch out...
                            ...

                            I got the TPJ-510 in W33 which are essentially a XX-005 and they ended up being about a size too big after a hot soak. (contemplating a really hot soak in order to find out if I can get some further shrinkage out…)

                            So, when buying the AI-002 I opted for W32 hoping to get a better post-soak fit. Will do pre-soak pics and measurements as well as soaking and post-soak measurements later this week...

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                            • FOXYF
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                              AI-02 is drying after the soak…


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                              • B
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                                really like the texture of the AI-002

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                                • gbougardG
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                                  The first of 2 24oz models came in today at BIG, it is the XX-013 24oz. Gordon told me he'd post a pic today, so go check it out. It is raw, so I wonder how much it will weigh when washed and shrunk. PBJ makes awesome pants, (almost) on a par with IH. In the pipeline is a 24oz version of the truly fantastic XX-007 deep indigo model. That one, I'm getting most definitely.

                                  http://blueingreensoho.com/site/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=9415&category_id=&manufacturer_id=9&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=28

                                  Sly Dunbar bigs up IH on YT
                                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t2OM738mKY
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                                  Gregory Isaacs Liveth 4 I-ver

                                  Renault: What in heaven’s name brought you to Casablanca?
                                  Rick: My health. I came to Casablanca for the waters.
                                  Renault: The waters? What waters? We’re in the desert.
                                  Ric

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                                  • kit99barK
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                                    I am thankful they only did the 24oz denim in their skinny cuts because I would be heavily tempted by the 003 cut!

                                    RAWWAR 2012!

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                                    • gbougardG
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                                      prepare to cry:

                                      http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.purebluejapan.jp/&ei=17JaTfmXMoaq8APg5PjUDw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CCYQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dpure%2Bblue%2Bjapan%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den%26prmd%3Divns

                                      Sly Dunbar bigs up IH on YT
                                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t2OM738mKY
                                      Sly & Robbie A Run Tings
                                      Gregory Isaacs Liveth 4 I-ver

                                      Renault: What in heaven’s name brought you to Casablanca?
                                      Rick: My health. I came to Casablanca for the waters.
                                      Renault: The waters? What waters? We’re in the desert.
                                      Ric

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                                      • SeulS
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                                        Man those 007s at 24 oz. look good…

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                                        • jimmyJ
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                                          I am impressed they manage to get that leaf embroidered so nicely over that seam in such thick denim

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                                          • gbougardG
                                            gbougard
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                                            Just received the 013 24oz model. It is a fucking beauty. The blue is amazing, the stiffness is out of this world. I could barely flezx my legs when I rode my motorcycle back home!

                                            the fit is great, although I think I should have taken the straight rather than the slim model because I have thighs and ass of a former rugby player… But man, I can tell the fade is going to be fantastic like the 007.

                                            Sly Dunbar bigs up IH on YT
                                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t2OM738mKY
                                            Sly & Robbie A Run Tings
                                            Gregory Isaacs Liveth 4 I-ver

                                            Renault: What in heaven’s name brought you to Casablanca?
                                            Rick: My health. I came to Casablanca for the waters.
                                            Renault: The waters? What waters? We’re in the desert.
                                            Ric

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