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    • GraemeG
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      The Black Bay in silver looks good. It sounds like it won't tarnish, which is a bit of a shame, as I like the idea of a what that develops a patina.

      Zenith have done a time only watch and a chronograph in silver. In a recent interview, Julien Tornare (the CEO) said that they considered stabilising the case so it wouldn't tarnish, but then they decided not to. They wanted a case that aged with use.

      I don't recall seeing the silver chronograph before, but it looks quite good.

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      • JDelageJ
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        There are silver alloys that do not tarnish, e.g., argentium.

        Silver is a different beast from bronze, IMHO. Bronze really takes on a multitude of hues as it patinates. Silver starts from being the whitest metal and turns grey, and then near black. It doesn't patina in a very interesting manner.

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        • louisboscoL
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          yeah. the sales staff and I were having a chat about the silver. it really comes down to personal preference at the end of the day. I did mention that it was uncommon to have silver on watches and you don't see it too often, like the zenith @Graeme posted. they did mention that Tudor has added alloys to make sure it wouldn't tarnish. I also did mention that I do like my silver ageing/ oxidising as shown by the goros I was wearing.

          @Anesthetist that is one of the best colour ways out there of the BB

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          • ChrisC
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            I think more than the aesthetics of silver oxidation, I'd be concerned with the wear and tear.  Silver's pretty soft and watches get banged around a lot. Ok, maybe that's just mine, but still.

            Of course, gold is even softer, and that's been used for watches since forever, so maybe I'm completely off base.

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            • GilesG
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              And platinum even softer?

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              • EisenherzE
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                The advantage of platinum is that, unlike gold, it does not wear out.  The molecules just shift but are not lost.  Anyway, it's heavier than gold.  Wearing platinum is said to be incomparable. 😉

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                • GilesG
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                  Interesting thank you.  I tried a Platinum Blancpain on once, it was all I could do to walk out of the shop without it….

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • JDelageJ
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                    The platinum Rolex (with the light blue dial) are super heavy.

                    @Eisenherz - Can you give precisions on what you wrote reg. Pl vs Au? I'm not sure I understand. Thanks.

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                    • EisenherzE
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                      @JDelage

                      Gold loses  atoms while wearing it rubs off, so to speak.  This does not happen with platinum.  Here the atoms are just shifting back and forth while wearing.  They do not leave their atomic compound.  At some point (in 1000 years) gold disappeared through wear, platinum never.  Is that too much physics?  Sorry!

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                      • EisenherzE
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                        this is my favorite, but I just stand in front of the shop window and press my nose wide on the glass.  they won't let me in :-

                        Rolex President Ice blue Platinum

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                        • louisboscoL
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                          I supposed 925 silver is made tougher than pure silver because of the alloys used. As compared to 950 and 995 which are more uncommon, 925 with 7.5 alloy is much strong than the latter.

                          in saying that though, I remember regretting choosing white gold over platinum for my ex wedding ring, which I regretted (not the ring)  :P, because of how soft white gold was and the scratches that came along compared to platinum, which I knew to be harder than all of the above.

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                          • ChrisC
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                            Based on my wife's rings, platinum will get light scratches and eventually go from a polished finish to a satin finish, but it's far more durable than gold. Her rings look new still and my gold wedding ring is developing some worryingly thin spots.  Though to be fair, my ring is secondhand and a few decades older.

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                            • GilesG
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                              And I think I was wrong above, platinum is harder than gold….

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              • JDelageJ
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                                @Eisenherz - Do you have a name for this phenomenon? Never heard of it & would like to look into it. There are many gold artifacts dated thousands of years old, so I’m curious.

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                                • EisenherzE
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                                  there is no term.  the atomic bond is very strong with platinum.
                                  gold does not disappear by itself but it stains off when you wear it, platinum does not

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                                  • GraemeG
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                                    You could always go for Palladium, which is harder again than Platinum. The only watch I can recall that used it as a case material is the Hermes In The Pocket.

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                                    • ChrisC
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                                      If you're really looking for hard and scratch resistant, there have been a couple of watched over the years made out of tungsten, which is extremely hard and very heavy. Lum-Tec did a run of them years ago, but I heard they were a huge hassle, because of the difficulties with tooling such a hard material.

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                                      • CutlasshoundC
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                                        @Eisenherz:

                                        @JDelage

                                        Gold loses  atoms while wearing it rubs off, so to speak.  This does not happen with platinum.  Here the atoms are just shifting back and forth while wearing.  They do not leave their atomic compound.  At some point (in 1000 years) gold disappeared through wear, platinum never.  Is that too much physics?  Sorry!

                                        Thats awesome! Thanks for sharing! [emoji41]

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                                        • louisboscoL
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                                          at this rate, I'll settle for vibranium. it's stronger than steel and 1/3 of the weight. it is also vibration absorbent.  😛 😛

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                                          • JDelageJ
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                                            Hmm…  OK.  ::)

                                            With all due respect, this sounds like an urban legend. I'm not sure that the metallic bond of gold is or not weaker than that of platinum. (There's basically no atomic bonding for gold or platinum under normal condition as both are non reactive.)

                                            In any case, I don't think it has any different impact over a normal human life. To say that platinum is harder than gold is confusing because gold is never used in its pure state and its alloyed forms are reasonably hard. Pure gold is more malleable than pure platinum but pure platinum is actually more ductile than pure gold, so it depends what we mean by "hard". Pure gold will show knocks more readily than pure platinum, but a platinum ring or bangle is more likely to stretch. Under normal circumstances, neither will magically evaporate or dissolve over a few thousand years.

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