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      This. Which is why Rolex SS watches, as an example, retain their value better than most. Desirable watches are 'stored' and not displayed by many retailers as to offer these models to their preffered clients. Not a preffered customer, and want a certain watch, well then be willing to pay a premium in the market.

      That's the fun of it.

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      • GraemeG
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        I agree with @DougNg that restricting supply could hurt Rolex in the long term. If I went into a dealer looking to make an expensive discretionary purchase, only to be told, "We're only selling those to our best customers, and we're not even going to let you put your name down on a waiting list," there's a good chance that I'll go to another watch shop and brand in the future.

        I'm probably not the only one who thinks like that. The fact that I can get a white faced IWC Big Pilot Big Date (one of a limited edition of 150) easier than a Daytona (341 for sale on Chrono24) suggests that someone is taking the Mickey.

        If you want a Rolex, find a dealer who'll put your name down on "the list", and be prepared to wait. (Anecdotally, the time will be less than you'll be quoted, and I've heard of people getting Daytonas within a year.) And accept all of the comments about a shortage as being sales BS.

        Or pay a premium on the grey market.

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          As someone who bought a GMT Master II SS from a dealer 2 years back, I went to the Rolex store in SYD, was put on the 1 year list, and went to an AD around the corner who knew on the spot he'd have a watch in for me within a month, no deposit needed. I was called by the Rolex store a few weeks after my name went on the list asking was I still interested as he had a watch for me ready to go.

          I'm not sure how much of this is rhetoric vs the reality that exists, vs my timing, vs being in SYD. My own first hand experience was set up to play out how it's described here, however, the reality very quickly turned out to be different.

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          • JDelageJ
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            The calculation made by the brand is that they'll be able to upsell them on bimetal or precious metal pieces, which are higher margin products. Once the customer is (1) committed to buying a Rolex and (2) in the store with cash in hand, they are in a weakened position and a significant proportion will be upsold.

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              ^^in neither shop was that my experience. Neither tried to suggest a two tone model. That could have been due to my declared/strong view of SS only tho. Just 1 direct exp. What you've mentioned JDelage sounds reasonable and likely, that said..

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              • JDelageJ
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                I might be wrong. It might also be a lot more subtle. When I was in a Rolex boutique, they said they didn't have one for me to try, but I was welcome to try a precious metal model one to see what it felt like and then leave my name for the steel model…

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                • GraemeG
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                  Here's another GMT, the Grand Seiko 9F Quartz GMT. This version, with the yellow highlight, has a specially tweaked movement accurate to within five seconds per year. :o

                  More at Watches by SJX.

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                  • mclaincauseyM
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                    @Graeme:

                    Here's another GMT, the Grand Seiko 9F Quartz GMT. This version, with the yellow highlight, has a specially tweaked movement accurate to within five seconds per year. :o

                    More at Watches by SJX.

                    dead sexy–but among my very favorites of all GMTs is this one: http://watchesbysjx.com/2017/10/introducing-the-grand-seiko-hi-beat-gmt-peacock-sbgj227.html

                    Think it, be it.

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                    • GraemeG
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                      @mclaincausey the green peacock dial is lovely. 😘

                      I like the Grand Seiko Blue Ceramic GMT, although it's probably an acquired taste. 🙂

                      It's also a big (46 mm in diameter) and expensive ($15K) watch.

                      Hodinkee and Watch Time have writeups.

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                      • JDelageJ
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                        I like it too - a lot. However, the price is ridiculous.

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                          Tempted to have a bid at this old omega that's come up at auction..

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                          • JDelageJ
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                            As a side note, I went to see "Crazy Rich Asians" recently (fun). There are a few nice watches, most especially a panda Daytona…

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                            • GraemeG
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                              Here's the background story on the Rolex in Crazy Rich Asians.

                              https://www.windvintage.com/blog/2018/8/23/the-story-of-the-rolex-paul-newman-daytona-in-crazy-rich-asians

                              And an Instagram post by the very lucky owner.

                              https://www.instagram.com/p/BmhxvXXFVfE/

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                              • JDelageJ
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                                Very cool, thank you. Isn’t that a lovely, lovely watch…

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                                • ChrisC
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                                  It was a pretty fun movie. I'm told the author name drops exceedingly nice watches throughout all three books in the series.  It will be interesting to see if any others get screen time in the future movie(s).

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                                  • JDelageJ
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                                    I recall at least one big Hublot at someone's wrist… I agree, fun movie.

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                                    • henry_davidH
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                                      So I went to the Vintage Rolex Forum x Fourtané meet last weekend in Carmel-by-the-Sea (see below for the link) and it was wonderful. I met a lot of wonderful people there, Eric Ku included, and saw the below Oysterquartz. I knew my father would love it so I let him know about it and now he's the proud owner of this 1980 Datejust Oysterquartz! It's his first vintage piece and he couldn't be happier. I love that I was able to convince him to get it and offload his regular Datejust  😎

                                      (https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/vintagerolexforum/vrf-x-fourtane-annual-gtg-saturday-august-25th-t245011.html)

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                                      • AnesthetistA
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                                        About 10 years ago I had a dealer offer me an Oysterquartz for $700 and I sadly passed on it because we were buying a house. [emoji24]

                                        Today:

                                        Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                                        IG: bluehandsslim

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                                          That is a really nice Watch @Anesthetist is the matching Good Art strap already in production  😎

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                                          • AnesthetistA
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                                            @Steffen:

                                            That is a really nice Watch @Anesthetist is the matching Good Art strap already in production  😎

                                            I’d love to have one in veg tan but unfortunately leather and hospitals dont mix well. I’d love even more to have a sterling bracelet but keeping my wife from tearing off my genitals is my first priority.

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                                            IG: bluehandsslim

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