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    • goosehdG
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      The Bulgari is amazing and way out of my price range.  I’ve always been drawn to tourbillon watches, but always wondered about their practicality and durability.

      I’ve also been reading that quite a few of the Swiss makers are worried about the current financial market  expecting the bubble to pop.  The quartz movement craze definitely affected the mechanical movements once, and now they are seeing the smart watches affecting sales.  They are also seeing younger demographics move away from the entire luxury markets, with more of them interested in buying experiences such as exotic vacations.

      I think that is what Patek is trying to do with dial colours to attract a younger audience.  It’s also fun reading comments about Rolex’s new GMT with the jubilee bracelet.  The older guys love the nostalgia, and the younger commenters are going on about not wearing an old man’s watch.

      Who know’s what the future holds and how many brands can survive another downturn.

      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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      • GraemeG
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        I tend to think that the tourbillon is a complication whose only purpose is to impress Russian oligarchs! 🙂

        The TAG Heuer tourbillon strikes me as worthwhile. It's one of the few to have COSC certification, and the Tête de Vipère edition is certified by the Besançon Observatory.

        I was under the impression that the Swiss industry had banked on growth in Asia, only for this to be cut off by the Chinese changing rules on gifting. The net result is a massive oversupply, which the watch manufacturers have been quietly buying up.

        This video (ignore the upside down sunglasses on the head!) suggests that millennials actually like two-tone watches. They're something that's passed through being uncool to being cool. (No, I don't get two-tone either.)

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        • ChrisC
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          Wow, there's a lot of dismissive condescension in those Hublot comments.  In a world where I have unlimited watch funds, I still probably wouldn't buy it, because I am, admittedly, boring.  But the development of really bright ceramics is interesting and has lots of potential.  And it's actually kinda cool, albeit in a gaudy, over the top, way.  Maybe I would buy it after all…

          I feel like in the decade or so that I've paid attention to watches, prices have gotten dramatically higher, and probably as a result, the ownership has gotten more homogenous and simultaneously less open to variety.  The folks at Hodinkee and their obsession with vintage "elegance" and palpable disdain for watches of unwearable proportions (40mm? Are you a clown? No one should ever wear a watch over 38mm, and tasteful gentlemen would never publicly wear anything larger than 36mm) just exacerbate the groupthink.  This is why I periodically get fed up with watch-centric websites and online communities.

          Anyway, some cool stuff at Baselworld this year, right?

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          • JDelageJ
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            A whole lot of pics in this thread:

            http://www.watchprosite.com/horological-meandering/fourth-day-in-baselworld-my-selection-of-wristshots-/17.1195226.9655631/

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            • ChrisC
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              Those Zeniths look a lot better in those shots than in the other ones I've seen.  Except the pilot watches.  Those do not appeal to me at all.

              The Bamford Monaco is better looking, too.  Still ambivalent about it, but the case is fascinating and the use of blue is well done.  I like that they put the extra effort into making the date wheel match.

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              • JDelageJ
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                More threads from the same guy - heavy pics that load slowly…

                http://www.watchprosite.com/horological-meandering/-span-style-color-gray--horological-meandering--span-first-day-at-baselworld-my-collection-of-wristshots/17.1194471.9643466/

                http://www.watchprosite.com/horological-meandering/-span-style-color-gray--horological-meandering--span-second-day-in-basel-my-collection-of-wristshots/17.1194741.9647511/

                http://www.watchprosite.com/horological-meandering/-span-style-color-gray--horological-meandering--span-third-day-in-basel-my-selection-of-wristshots/17.1194941.9652136/

                http://www.watchprosite.com/horological-meandering/-span-style-color-gray--horological-meandering--span-my-fifth-day-in-baselworld-my-selection-of-wristshots/17.1195496.9659846/

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                • GraemeG
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                  @Chris when I bought my Breitling Avenger Seawolf in titanium in 2008 or 2009 the retail price was around £2000. The SuperOcean was a bit cheaper, somewhere around £1800, I think.

                  The titanium model was discontinued, but the current SuperOcean and Seawolf cost about £3500, so in a decade prices have doubled. Had prices tracked inflation, which has generally been low, these watches would be around £2200 to £2500.

                  You might be right about higher prices leading to more homogeneity. Certainly there are a lot of people who'll only spend money on a Rolex or Patek, which are very conservative brands, because they hold their value best.

                  I think that the tastes expressed by Hodinkee's readers and writers are typical of the groupthink of any online community. Compare Styleforum's streetwear section, The Fedora Lounge, and here. There's quite a bit of crossover in both tastes and posters, but some brands that are highly regarded on one will be dismissed on another.

                  But I agree that there were some good things at Baselworld, and also at SIHH. (I really like a few pieces in the IWC jubilee collection.) And as long as Hublot come out with red ceramic watches, and Bulgari do interesting things, it's not all lost, right?

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                  • GraemeG
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                    Longines Legend Diver in 36mm, this one has the burgundy dial. I might have found @Anesthetist a diver's watch.

                    More at the tiny watch lovin' Hodinkee.

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                    • AnesthetistA
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                      Stop helping me spend money @Graeme [emoji23]
                      That is a beauty but one I’d have to see in person. I think the original Longines is so perfect I am concerned the proportions would be off in a smaller case. Def interesting though.

                      Did you guys see the new Nomos that is coming?

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                      • GraemeG
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                        I'm currently broke, so having to live my watch fantasies vicariously through others! 😃

                        Is that the Nomos with the date indicator around the edge of the dial? It looks quite interesting.

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                        • ChrisC
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                          The Neomatik Tangente?  That one is great.  The one that looks like a car speedometer?  Not so great.

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                          • G
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                            are there any German speakers here that are also members of Uhrforum? I was hoping to get a message to someone selling a watch on there. Please pm me if you can help. Thanks!

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                            • JDelageJ
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                              Eh, I'm also looking at a watch on that forum! Probably not going to pull the trigger, but it's funny. Not a Sinn T2 per chance?  😃

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                                I was looking at a Smiths military watch

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                                • JDelageJ
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                                  Ah. I’m not a member of the forum; I just have a watch I’m interested in pop up today.

                                  IH, IH, GS…

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                                  • CutlasshoundC
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                                    @goodrain:

                                    I was looking at a Smiths military watch

                                    As an aside, have you checked out timefactors as they stock smiths watches?

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                                    I ain't got time to bleed.

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                                    • G
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                                      yes mate. The PRS 29B is sold out and Eddie said he has no plans to make more. now i have to hunt!

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                                      • GraemeG
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                                        The first review of the Oris Carl Brashear chronograph has been published on Monochrome.

                                        It's a great looking piece, and I'm sure that @JDelage will appreciate me helping spend his money. 😃

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                                        • ChrisC
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                                          Ooooooh, that is pretty.

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                                          • JDelageJ
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                                            Pretty watch but I'm happy with the one I have. Not much taken by chronos these days.

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