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    Chris
    Raw and Unwashed
    Joined: 28 Jun 2010

    Wow, there's a lot of dismissive condescension in those Hublot comments.  In a world where I have unlimited watch funds, I still probably wouldn't buy it, because I am, admittedly, boring.  But the development of really bright ceramics is interesting and has lots of potential.  And it's actually kinda cool, albeit in a gaudy, over the top, way.  Maybe I would buy it after all…

    I feel like in the decade or so that I've paid attention to watches, prices have gotten dramatically higher, and probably as a result, the ownership has gotten more homogenous and simultaneously less open to variety.  The folks at Hodinkee and their obsession with vintage "elegance" and palpable disdain for watches of unwearable proportions (40mm? Are you a clown? No one should ever wear a watch over 38mm, and tasteful gentlemen would never publicly wear anything larger than 36mm) just exacerbate the groupthink.  This is why I periodically get fed up with watch-centric websites and online communities.

    Anyway, some cool stuff at Baselworld this year, right?

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      JDelage
      啓蒙家
      Joined: 13 Jan 2012

      A whole lot of pics in this thread:

      http://www.watchprosite.com/horological-meandering/fourth-day-in-baselworld-my-selection-of-wristshots-/17.1195226.9655631/

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        Chris
        Raw and Unwashed
        Joined: 28 Jun 2010

        Those Zeniths look a lot better in those shots than in the other ones I've seen.  Except the pilot watches.  Those do not appeal to me at all.

        The Bamford Monaco is better looking, too.  Still ambivalent about it, but the case is fascinating and the use of blue is well done.  I like that they put the extra effort into making the date wheel match.

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          JDelage
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          Joined: 13 Jan 2012

          More threads from the same guy - heavy pics that load slowly…

          http://www.watchprosite.com/horological-meandering/-span-style-color-gray--horological-meandering--span-first-day-at-baselworld-my-collection-of-wristshots/17.1194471.9643466/

          http://www.watchprosite.com/horological-meandering/-span-style-color-gray--horological-meandering--span-second-day-in-basel-my-collection-of-wristshots/17.1194741.9647511/

          http://www.watchprosite.com/horological-meandering/-span-style-color-gray--horological-meandering--span-third-day-in-basel-my-selection-of-wristshots/17.1194941.9652136/

          http://www.watchprosite.com/horological-meandering/-span-style-color-gray--horological-meandering--span-my-fifth-day-in-baselworld-my-selection-of-wristshots/17.1195496.9659846/

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            Graeme
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            Joined: 30 Mar 2012

            @Chris when I bought my Breitling Avenger Seawolf in titanium in 2008 or 2009 the retail price was around £2000. The SuperOcean was a bit cheaper, somewhere around £1800, I think.

            The titanium model was discontinued, but the current SuperOcean and Seawolf cost about £3500, so in a decade prices have doubled. Had prices tracked inflation, which has generally been low, these watches would be around £2200 to £2500.

            You might be right about higher prices leading to more homogeneity. Certainly there are a lot of people who'll only spend money on a Rolex or Patek, which are very conservative brands, because they hold their value best.

            I think that the tastes expressed by Hodinkee's readers and writers are typical of the groupthink of any online community. Compare Styleforum's streetwear section, The Fedora Lounge, and here. There's quite a bit of crossover in both tastes and posters, but some brands that are highly regarded on one will be dismissed on another.

            But I agree that there were some good things at Baselworld, and also at SIHH. (I really like a few pieces in the IWC jubilee collection.) And as long as Hublot come out with red ceramic watches, and Bulgari do interesting things, it's not all lost, right?

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              Graeme
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              Joined: 30 Mar 2012

              Longines Legend Diver in 36mm, this one has the burgundy dial. I might have found @Anesthetist a diver's watch.

              More at the tiny watch lovin' Hodinkee.

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                Anesthetist
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                Joined: 14 May 2011

                Stop helping me spend money @Graeme [emoji23]
                That is a beauty but one I’d have to see in person. I think the original Longines is so perfect I am concerned the proportions would be off in a smaller case. Def interesting though.

                Did you guys see the new Nomos that is coming?

                Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                IG: bluehandsslim

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                  Graeme
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                  Joined: 30 Mar 2012

                  I'm currently broke, so having to live my watch fantasies vicariously through others! 😃

                  Is that the Nomos with the date indicator around the edge of the dial? It looks quite interesting.

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                    Chris
                    Raw and Unwashed
                    Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                    The Neomatik Tangente?  That one is great.  The one that looks like a car speedometer?  Not so great.

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                      goodrain
                      Joined: 8 Feb 2014

                      are there any German speakers here that are also members of Uhrforum? I was hoping to get a message to someone selling a watch on there. Please pm me if you can help. Thanks!

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                        JDelage
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                        Joined: 13 Jan 2012

                        Eh, I'm also looking at a watch on that forum! Probably not going to pull the trigger, but it's funny. Not a Sinn T2 per chance?  😃

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                          goodrain
                          Joined: 8 Feb 2014

                          I was looking at a Smiths military watch

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                            JDelage
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                            Joined: 13 Jan 2012

                            Ah. I’m not a member of the forum; I just have a watch I’m interested in pop up today.

                            IH, IH, GS…

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                              Cutlasshound
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                              Joined: 28 Oct 2013

                              @goodrain:

                              I was looking at a Smiths military watch

                              As an aside, have you checked out timefactors as they stock smiths watches?

                              Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                              I ain't got time to bleed.

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                                goodrain
                                Joined: 8 Feb 2014

                                yes mate. The PRS 29B is sold out and Eddie said he has no plans to make more. now i have to hunt!

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                                  Graeme
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                                  Joined: 30 Mar 2012

                                  The first review of the Oris Carl Brashear chronograph has been published on Monochrome.

                                  It's a great looking piece, and I'm sure that @JDelage will appreciate me helping spend his money. 😃

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                                    Chris
                                    Raw and Unwashed
                                    Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                                    Ooooooh, that is pretty.

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                                      JDelage
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                                      Joined: 13 Jan 2012

                                      Pretty watch but I'm happy with the one I have. Not much taken by chronos these days.

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                                        Graeme
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                                        Joined: 30 Mar 2012

                                        Hodinkee have wrapped up their coverage of Baselworld with a couple of articles.

                                        There are the expected lists of the best everyday watches and the best grail timepieces. Somehow the Bulgari tourbillon was missed off the latter.

                                        The biggest surprises contains a reference to an interview with Biver. I haven't got around to watching it yet, but I find this thoughts interesting. Plus in some of the Baselworld coverage his outfit makes him look like a Bond villain.

                                        There's also a feature on the fashion of attendees at Basel, and whilst some of the outfits look like something out of Zoolander, some of the watch choices are interesting as some are a bit more adventurous than the average WIS goes in for. The Tudor Black Bay Bronze and Omega Dark Side of the Moon are the only pieces to double up. (There's a similar article about SIHH if you need more clothing inspiration!)

                                        Time and Tide have a best of wrap-up, along with another piece covering the top seven cheaper watches.

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                                          Damienos74
                                          Joined: 15 Nov 2016

                                          Greetings! Just this old thing on the wrist today…

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