Watches - another OCD problem
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Hodinkee are reporting on a couple of new Zenith chronographs.
First up is the Zenith Defy El Primero 21 with a Panda dial. I saw the skeletonised model a few weeks back, which I think looks better, but this one would be easier to read. I believe it's cheaper too.
There's a debate as to whether the second Zenith logo on the crystal is a sticker or not. I'm hoping it's the latter, as it looks messy in the photo.
The other is the Zenith Tipo CP-2, which is an unlimited version of the limited edition CP-2 released last year. The differences are that the new model has either an aged stainless steel or bronze case (pictured below), rather than polished steel, a display back has been added, and it's now a flyback movement.
Both pieces look good. They're pretty large watches (44 and 43 mm respectively), which has elicited comments from the peanut gallery at Hodinkee, but I like them. Of the two, I'd go for the Defy.
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That brass flyback is stunning.
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"Aged" stainless steel? C'mon Zenith, isn't the point of stainless steel that it doesn't, y'know, age?
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P.S. Zenith Jumped the shark years ago…https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark
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It's a great watch, one of my favourites actually.
I too like the smurf, the dial is beautiful as is the weight of the (stealth) white gold…but I'm not really into precious metals. They're more reasonably priced on the secondary market...but I say save some green, buy the Hulk and get some IH gear!!
Have a great weekend gents.
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@neph93 aren't you meant to stay in the other watch thread? A Rolex isn't in the less intimidating category, though if that's your grail, it might be better to go straight there.
@goosehd there are rumours that Rolex might discontinue the Hulk in the very near future, but I think that they're repeated every year. I suspect that the movements will be upgraded to the new and improved design, and that'd give them an excuse to refresh the range.
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@Giles the Swiss watch companies don't need an excuse to increase prices, they do it anyway. The trouble is that they also markup stock held in store, which was paid for a year or two earlier in some cases.
For example, I had an email off the Chopard Boutique in London in March last year, telling me that the LUC 8HF they had in stock, and they'd contacted me about a year earlier, was going up by around £1000. It was still there in September.
It's probably why some in trouble now, because they've made themselves less affordable. In fact, there was a trend at SIHH to bring down the prices of some models.
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@Graeme Thank you for the info!
I currently have a Sea Dweller 4000 circa 2014 and a Breitling Crosswind Special ~2004 (white face) in my arsenal. I often think the green “hulk” would be a nice colour to add into my rotation.
Blancpain was never on my radar until my frequent visits to this thread, making my decision on the hulk more difficult. In fact it is my frequent visits to this thread that slows me down from making another purchase altogether! There are a lot of really nice watches being displayed in here, as well as some of questionable taste (imo).
My grail would be one of the Patek’s, but out of my price range for the foreseeable future. There is also the justification of expense. The “smurf” is a great example of where do I draw the line in value and can justify it. For the money of the “smurf”, I can definitely find a Patek to my liking.
My honest feeling is that the stainless models of the Rolex’s are a decent value for the money spent (if Rolex didn’t keep raising their prices every year
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@neph93 aren't you meant to stay in the other watch thread? A Rolex isn't in the less intimidating category, though if that's your grail, it might be better to go straight there.
Alright, alright, I’ll reel my neck in, I was just seeing how the other half lived [emoji1]
Seriously though,I’m definitely paying in the sub $1k category for my first watch. But the webshop I’m using for research has watches from $100 Casios to Pateks and Panerai.
I was trying to figure out what you get for your money when I got caught up in the Rolex vortex [emoji23]
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@goosehd the Tribute to Fifty Fathoms Mil-Spec is the Blancpain that I'd get if I was going that way. There's a piece at Hodinkee on the watch.
I'd also throw in the Cartier Diver's watch in blue. I think that this model has just been discontinued, so you might get a discount, but it's a lovely looking thing. Probably not your style, though.
I think that if I was spending a lot of money on a watch, I'd be putting it into the movement, rather than the case. So I'd go for a steel Patek over a precious metal Rolex. No idea what the price retention of either of those would be like, though.
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@neph93 you might say that, but I'm waiting for your "look at my new A. Lange & Söhne Triple Split" post.
I must admit, I don't really get the whole Rolex thing. Yes, I know that they're really well engineered, and hold their value well. But I find them really boring and conservative (except for the Air King, which is awesome), and the deliberate way that they make certain models (I'm looking at the Daytona in steel) completely unobtainable.
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@Graeme Once again, thank you! That blancpain is definitely one I have been considering. I’m more of a window shopper and dreamer, but I occasionally do give in.
Thanks for your advice and please keep posting the great pictures and links. I have read quite a few of your past recommendations.
