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    • NikN
      Nik
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      Centurion Autumn 100 mile Ultramarathon
      5th out of 252 starters.
      Went out fast. Had the usual struggle before halfway point. After 50 miles was able to catch some people on hills, then on the last leg forced more carbs in and just ran my own race.
      The 4 out and back spurs/legs were fun because it meant seeing all the other runners out there. Must have said/heard ‘well done’ about 200 times. Centurion organised a great race again, would recommend.
      Some thoughts about kit and nutrition: waterproof socks work well for when you have to step in standing water. Same strategy again of mostly tailwind drink and sometimes water supplemented by gu gels worked well. Eating a gel every two miles is tough and I couldn’t manage it the whole time but it does keep the engine running.
      Also I got stung by a bee towards the beginning.
      Gear was satisfy running techsilk and cloud merino followed by arcteryx norvan tights and iron heart fleece western for the final cold 25 miles. Shoes were hoka tecton x 2 the whole time with two sock changes. No blisters.
      Most importantly: these extended endurance events use up my whole body, including my lungs, heart, and brain. At times I got emotional and had little whimpers of almost tears. I imagined everyone I love alive and dead with me pushing me forward. I felt them with me through the race. I did not do this on my own.
      For any strava users here's a link to the activity https://www.strava.com/activities/12641853197

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      • goosehdG
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        Nice training run in today with temps in the high 50's to low 60's, sunny, and decent breeze. Twelve km's in 78 minutes with an average heart rate in the low 150's. I'm pleased with that and could probably have put some more time/distance in.

        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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        • goosehdG
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          Just signed up for a 24km trail run/race next month. Looked yesterday and all of the slots were full for the 24km, emailed and they confirmed it was full. Today I popped onto the site, a spot had opened back up, and took it as a sign. Will be just out of my comfort zone and should be a decent challenge. I've trained hard this summer (and last year) so hopefully will be able to finish without any ill effects.

          Have just under a month to finish getting ready...excited but also experiencing a bit of trepidation.

          "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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          • NikN
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            Sounds like fun, will that be your longest run?

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            • goosehdG
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              @Nik longest for a race. Last time I ran 24km’s was last summer for a training run. I’m in much better shape now.

              "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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              • NikN
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                @goosehd fun. Race energy is really its own thing, pretty fun to see what happens in that environment.

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                • goosehdG
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                  @Nik I’m banking on it.

                  "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                  • goosehdG
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                    Random question: How do you guys use your smartwatches during a competition? Are you paying attention to any of the data or do you throw it all out the window and run by perceived exertion level?

                    "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                    • NikN
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                      For ultras I like having a map screen and for my last event had average pace, distance, and time alongside the map. I get an alert for every mile with total time and mile time so in the past have just had map and average pace. For road races I’ll take more data. But often the purpose of that data is to slow down, because if I just go by feel I might go too fast and blow up, although that hasn’t happened yet so maybe in the future I’ll let myself go faster….
                      Feel is by far most important. The watch just adds a bit of fun numbering to quantify feel.

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                      • goosehdG
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                        I'm three weeks out from my race and was a little worried about the distance. Decided to do a training run today mimicking the race which consists of three loops at 6.5 km, one 10 km, and the final 7.5 km for a total distance of 24 km's. I just finished the 24.13 km's in 3:03:36. Feel pretty good and not exhausted but know trail running will be a bit different than today's run which was primarily on road/asphalt. Average pace was 7'36"/km and my heart rate was steady at 149 bpm.

                        Plan to spend the next three weeks at about 50 km/week in training and hopefully that will be enough.

                        Thank you all for your stories and support. It means a lot and please know that you guys are an inspiration to me.

                        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                        • DmartD
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                          @goosehd I use timer, distance, actual pace, avg. pace, HR
                          I have a second page for lap stats (I manually lap each km,mile).

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                          • DmartD
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                            @goosehd will it be a technical trail? If yes, try to get used to roots and rocks in different conditions. Trails are a different beast vs flat roads. Your muscles fatigue a good a bit more.

                            How did you fuel your run? Have you soaked in fuel and hydration?

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                            • goosehdG
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                              @Dmart Thankfully it is hard packed with minimal roots and rocks, but enough that you have to be mindful of foot placement.

                              Today’s run was where I working out the fuel situation and used gels and a strop waffle. A decent breakfast this morning (almost too much) and took a gel at 1 hour, strop waffle at 1:50, and didn’t need another. Extra’s in my vest just in case along with enough water for today’s conditions. The race has 3 aid stations so not worried about running out of liquids.

                              Also was working out pacing so I could gauge what I need to run to be steady in the race. 7’30”s felt good and I could easily manage my breathing and heart rate.

                              "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                              • DmartD
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                                @goosehd practice carb intake. Depending on intensity, adjust your carb intake. Time 2 below, you can work with 30-60g/hour, anything higher practice higher intake of 70+g/hour.
                                Since you will be longer than 90 mins out there on race day, I would certainly consider a carb load.
                                Happy to help if needed.

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                                • NikN
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                                  I run a lot slower on trails than on roads, and eat more

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                                  • goosehdG
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                                    @Dmart Thank you and a question regarding carbs. I eat a lot of carbs during the week and wonder if I still need to load when my diet is too heavily focused on them. Normal week has rice, pastas, bread, oats, etc.

                                    "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                    • DmartD
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                                      @goosehd I see it a bit differently and would go more in line with research. Yes, you may not hit the wall but could you benefit, feel better and perform better? Distance to me is not necessarily a good marker. If I run a half marathon in 75 mins I may be able to run it with just the glycogen in my muscles and liver, however if I race for more than 90mins, everyone can benefit from a carb load and consuming carbs during the race.
                                      To me it depends on intensity and duration, so being out there racing at your personal race intensity for two hours, certainly you will benefit from a carb load and fuel during the race.
                                      As a general rule and what we see with the professional athletes we are working with is around 4-5grams of carbs per kilogram of body weight two days out and 8-12g of carbs per kilogram of body weight the day before. Front load the carbs, so you don’t have to eat too much too late.
                                      But please don’t just carb load as prescribed without testing it. Everyone reacts differently and some may be able to absorb more or need to take less. Same goes for in race fueling. Test taking carbs at race intensity during a simulation or intense workout.

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                                      • NikN
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                                        Some triathlon pros are eating 185 grams of carbs an hour on the bike.
                                        And the dude who just won Javelina Jundred and Leadville 100 mile ultramarathons says the only way he can do that stuff is high carb fuelling.

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                                          About to give my Glycerin Max their first test run!

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                                          • goosehdG
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                                            Race day on Sunday and putting the final pieces of the puzzle together. Temps will be around 35F at the start climbing to 43F (by finish hopefully). Spent the last week trying out different combinations of running gear/clothing to figure out what will work and not. I spent one day and went to the race site to run the more technical side of the race to find that it is in worse shape than last year with more rocks, roots, and other trip hazards. Today was my last training run and felt pretty good.

                                            Tomorrow is a rest day 🙂

                                            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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