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    Nik
    Raw and Unwashed
    @goosehd
    Joined: 12 Nov 2020

    @goosehd fun. Race energy is really its own thing, pretty fun to see what happens in that environment.

    last edited by 21 Oct 2024, 21:11 G 1 Reply Last reply 21 Oct 2024, 21:12 Reply Quote 1
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      goosehd
      Mod Squad
      @Nik
      Joined: 8 Apr 2016

      @Nik I’m banking on it.

      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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        goosehd
        Mod Squad
        Joined: 8 Apr 2016

        Random question: How do you guys use your smartwatches during a competition? Are you paying attention to any of the data or do you throw it all out the window and run by perceived exertion level?

        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

        last edited by 22 Oct 2024, 17:39 D 1 Reply Last reply 26 Oct 2024, 18:41 Reply Quote 1
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          Nik
          Raw and Unwashed
          Joined: 12 Nov 2020

          For ultras I like having a map screen and for my last event had average pace, distance, and time alongside the map. I get an alert for every mile with total time and mile time so in the past have just had map and average pace. For road races I’ll take more data. But often the purpose of that data is to slow down, because if I just go by feel I might go too fast and blow up, although that hasn’t happened yet so maybe in the future I’ll let myself go faster….
          Feel is by far most important. The watch just adds a bit of fun numbering to quantify feel.

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            goosehd
            Mod Squad
            Joined: 8 Apr 2016

            I'm three weeks out from my race and was a little worried about the distance. Decided to do a training run today mimicking the race which consists of three loops at 6.5 km, one 10 km, and the final 7.5 km for a total distance of 24 km's. I just finished the 24.13 km's in 3:03:36. Feel pretty good and not exhausted but know trail running will be a bit different than today's run which was primarily on road/asphalt. Average pace was 7'36"/km and my heart rate was steady at 149 bpm.

            Plan to spend the next three weeks at about 50 km/week in training and hopefully that will be enough.

            Thank you all for your stories and support. It means a lot and please know that you guys are an inspiration to me.

            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

            last edited by goosehd 26 Oct 2024, 17:59 D 1 Reply Last reply 26 Oct 2024, 18:44 Reply Quote 0
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              Dmart
              啓蒙家
              @goosehd
              Joined: 24 Mar 2021

              @goosehd I use timer, distance, actual pace, avg. pace, HR
              I have a second page for lap stats (I manually lap each km,mile).

              last edited by 26 Oct 2024, 18:41 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
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                Dmart
                啓蒙家
                @goosehd
                Joined: 24 Mar 2021

                @goosehd will it be a technical trail? If yes, try to get used to roots and rocks in different conditions. Trails are a different beast vs flat roads. Your muscles fatigue a good a bit more.

                How did you fuel your run? Have you soaked in fuel and hydration?

                last edited by 26 Oct 2024, 18:44 G 1 Reply Last reply 26 Oct 2024, 18:57 Reply Quote 1
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                  goosehd
                  Mod Squad
                  @Dmart
                  Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                  @Dmart Thankfully it is hard packed with minimal roots and rocks, but enough that you have to be mindful of foot placement.

                  Today’s run was where I working out the fuel situation and used gels and a strop waffle. A decent breakfast this morning (almost too much) and took a gel at 1 hour, strop waffle at 1:50, and didn’t need another. Extra’s in my vest just in case along with enough water for today’s conditions. The race has 3 aid stations so not worried about running out of liquids.

                  Also was working out pacing so I could gauge what I need to run to be steady in the race. 7’30”s felt good and I could easily manage my breathing and heart rate.

                  "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                    Dmart
                    啓蒙家
                    @goosehd
                    Joined: 24 Mar 2021

                    @goosehd practice carb intake. Depending on intensity, adjust your carb intake. Time 2 below, you can work with 30-60g/hour, anything higher practice higher intake of 70+g/hour.
                    Since you will be longer than 90 mins out there on race day, I would certainly consider a carb load.
                    Happy to help if needed.

                    last edited by 26 Oct 2024, 20:58 G 1 Reply Last reply 27 Oct 2024, 13:12 Reply Quote 0
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                      Nik
                      Raw and Unwashed
                      Joined: 12 Nov 2020

                      I run a lot slower on trails than on roads, and eat more

                      last edited by 26 Oct 2024, 21:36 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
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                        goosehd
                        Mod Squad
                        @Dmart
                        Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                        @Dmart Thank you and a question regarding carbs. I eat a lot of carbs during the week and wonder if I still need to load when my diet is too heavily focused on them. Normal week has rice, pastas, bread, oats, etc.

                        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                          Dmart
                          啓蒙家
                          @goosehd
                          Joined: 24 Mar 2021

                          @goosehd I see it a bit differently and would go more in line with research. Yes, you may not hit the wall but could you benefit, feel better and perform better? Distance to me is not necessarily a good marker. If I run a half marathon in 75 mins I may be able to run it with just the glycogen in my muscles and liver, however if I race for more than 90mins, everyone can benefit from a carb load and consuming carbs during the race.
                          To me it depends on intensity and duration, so being out there racing at your personal race intensity for two hours, certainly you will benefit from a carb load and fuel during the race.
                          As a general rule and what we see with the professional athletes we are working with is around 4-5grams of carbs per kilogram of body weight two days out and 8-12g of carbs per kilogram of body weight the day before. Front load the carbs, so you don’t have to eat too much too late.
                          But please don’t just carb load as prescribed without testing it. Everyone reacts differently and some may be able to absorb more or need to take less. Same goes for in race fueling. Test taking carbs at race intensity during a simulation or intense workout.

                          last edited by Dmart 27 Oct 2024, 14:59 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
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                            Nik
                            Raw and Unwashed
                            Joined: 12 Nov 2020

                            Some triathlon pros are eating 185 grams of carbs an hour on the bike.
                            And the dude who just won Javelina Jundred and Leadville 100 mile ultramarathons says the only way he can do that stuff is high carb fuelling.

                            last edited by 27 Oct 2024, 15:25 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
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                              3lli0t
                              Raw and Unwashed
                              Joined: 6 Sept 2021

                              About to give my Glycerin Max their first test run!

                              last edited by 27 Oct 2024, 15:59 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                goosehd
                                Mod Squad
                                Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                                Race day on Sunday and putting the final pieces of the puzzle together. Temps will be around 35F at the start climbing to 43F (by finish hopefully). Spent the last week trying out different combinations of running gear/clothing to figure out what will work and not. I spent one day and went to the race site to run the more technical side of the race to find that it is in worse shape than last year with more rocks, roots, and other trip hazards. Today was my last training run and felt pretty good.

                                Tomorrow is a rest day 🙂

                                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

                                last edited by 15 Nov 2024, 22:52 GardenStateG 1 Reply Last reply 15 Nov 2024, 23:15 Reply Quote 5
                                • GardenStateG
                                  GardenState
                                  Haraki san Expert
                                  @goosehd
                                  Joined: 24 Jan 2021

                                  @goosehd What we all want to know is will you be running this race in a pair of UHR with some Wescos on feet?

                                  last edited by 15 Nov 2024, 23:15 G 1 Reply Last reply 15 Nov 2024, 23:56 Reply Quote 1
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                                    goosehd
                                    Mod Squad
                                    @GardenState
                                    Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                                    @GardenState Great question and sadly, I don’t think I’m ready yet. Maybe next time 😂

                                    "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

                                    last edited by 15 Nov 2024, 23:56 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                    • J-IVJ
                                      J-IV
                                      啓蒙家
                                      Joined: 19 Oct 2011

                                      You got this @goosehd ! Just know you got a bunch of stubborn denim loving weirdo’s rooting for you if you ever hit the wall. Though I’m sure you’ll have plenty of support in person.

                                      Snap a fit pic if you end up sneaking in some IH for your run fit 🤙🏽

                                      I'm as ugly as you

                                      last edited by 16 Nov 2024, 00:37 G 1 Reply Last reply 17 Nov 2024, 12:33 Reply Quote 2
                                      • JordJ
                                        Jord
                                        Raw and Unwashed
                                        Joined: 10 Nov 2024

                                        Man I just joined this forum a few days ago, but you guys have threads for everything! I hope to share some runs here...

                                        last edited by 16 Nov 2024, 01:01 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 3
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                                          Nik
                                          Raw and Unwashed
                                          Joined: 12 Nov 2020

                                          Have fun on Sunday @goosehd do you have a race plan and goal or going on feel? Will your family be there too or solo mission?

                                          last edited by 16 Nov 2024, 06:12 G 1 Reply Last reply 16 Nov 2024, 12:00 Reply Quote 1
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