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    • neph93N
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      888 is a very versatile cut. After a lot of experimenting and a couple of wrong moves it has become “my cut”.

      «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
      We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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        Nice! Did you go TTS ?

        R.I.P. Filthy🤘

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        • neph93N
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          I size down one. The waist sits high and I’m narrower there. The thigh is generous enough for it not to be a problem.

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          We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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            I am waiting for my pre-ordered s710xx 19oz from denimio, can't wait  🙂

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              How are the IH better constructed? I know about the difference between full cotton stitching and poly-cotton but I assume there must be something else?

              I'm a noob and cannot see how my IH are better constructed than my Samurais, I'm probably missing out. 😞

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                @IronMan:

                I am waiting for my pre-ordered s710xx 19oz from denimio, can't wait  🙂

                Cool beans, nice to see an actual Samurai-related post in the Samurai thread for a change. 😎

                The S710 is the all time greatest cut ever for me, hope you find it to your liking.

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                  How are the IH better constructed? I know about the difference between full cotton stitching and poly-cotton but I assume there must be something else?

                  I'm a noob and cannot see how my IH are better constructed than my Samurais, I'm probably missing out. 😞

                  i am noob too but i think that both Samurai and IH are very high end quality. I have read that Samurais are a bit slubbier but that is just personal taste IMHO

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                    @IronMan:

                    I am waiting for my pre-ordered s710xx 19oz from denimio, can't wait  🙂

                    Cool beans, nice to see an actual Samurai-related post in the Samurai thread for a change. 😎

                    The S710 is the all time greatest cut ever for me, hope you find it to your liking.

                    Yeah i really can't wait, i have high expectactions as these would be my first raw japanese denim pair as i only had fake assured quality rich signatures jeans till now

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                    • neph93N
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                      @Crit_Obs:

                      How are the IH better constructed? I know about the difference between full cotton stitching and poly-cotton but I assume there must be something else?

                      I'm a noob and cannot see how my IH are better constructed than my Samurais, I'm probably missing out. 😞

                      Polycotton stitching for starters.

                      «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                      We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                      • BD81B
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                        Dont get me wrong I love my 25oz 510s. Like i said earlier only issue was leg twist and broken threads. Next pair is def going to be IH

                        R.I.P. Filthy🤘

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                          i am noob too but i think that both Samurai and IH are very high end quality. I have read that Samurais are a bit slubbier but that is just personal taste IMHO

                          Samurai churn out a number of different fabrics, all of them unsanforized, most on the heavier side, some slubbier than others.

                          @beautiful_FrEaK owns or has owned probably a few pairs in each Samurai denim and could no doubt explain the minute differences between them, but I believe learning about the 19oz first-hand will be the most rewarding experience for you for now. 😎

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                            @neph93:

                            @Crit_Obs:

                            How are the IH better constructed? I know about the difference between full cotton stitching and poly-cotton but I assume there must be something else?

                            I'm a noob and cannot see how my IH are better constructed than my Samurais, I'm probably missing out. 😞

                            Polycotton stitching for starters.

                            I mentioned the different stitching, which is a choice not directly related to quality of construction; what else is there? "Better construction all over", this is what interests me.

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                              In my limited experience with Samurai, they make amazing denim, cut beautifully. But my Samurai fell apart a lot quicker than any of my IH have done.

                              Samurai use cotton thread in construction and it failed on me. They do this for authenticity. IH doesn’t worry about that level of authenticity and prefer to use thread that is best for the job.

                              Edit: just saw your last post. Thread is really quite vital to constructing clothing. All over.

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                              We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                I’ll give you one more example. Samurai’s denim, as lovely as it is, is constructed to fade and age and garner a certain aesthetic with wear. Use it in a harsh environment (as I did) and it wears out surprisingly quickly. A lot quicker than IH 21oz or 25oz. That is just my experience of course, but I assume it has something to do with the thinking behind the design of the fabric as well.

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                                We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                  A few more pics of my 25oz 510s

                                  R.I.P. Filthy🤘

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                                    They look alot better in the sun

                                    R.I.P. Filthy🤘

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                                      @neph93 Thanks for the info not quite ready to pull the trigger on a pair just yet. Im going to wear the shit out of my 510s for a bit while i gather info on what will be the best IH fit for me. Idk why samurai would not use cotton poly thread as well

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                                        @neph93 Thanks for the info not quite ready to pull the trigger on a pair just yet. Im going to wear the shit out of my 510s for a bit while i gather info on what will be the best IH fit for me. Idk why samurai would not use cotton poly thread as well

                                        Poly-cotton would be nice but they won’t do it and let’s face it, it’s not the seams that are first to give if you look at the damage people generally need to attend to with their jeans; crotch-blowouts being probably the most common example. What cotton stitches do is they might pop in places like around the pockets etc. and eventually some repair work might be required… But your jeans won’t disintegrate on you cos they used the traditional kind of threads for stitching.

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                                          You are right, A few stitches broke around the front pockets and a few at the crotch. It was an easy repair for the price i paid, i didn't really think i would have to. Whatever tho shit happens no big deal i guess. Other than that and the twist the 25oz denim is fucking awesome and seems like it is going to fade fairly slow and last a long time.

                                          R.I.P. Filthy🤘

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                                          • neph93N
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                                            Poly-cotton would be nice but they won’t do it and let’s face it, it’s not the seams that are first to give if you look at the damage people generally need to attend to with their jeans; crotch-blowouts being probably the most common example. What cotton stitches do is they might pop in places like around the pockets etc. and eventually some repair work might be required… But your jeans won’t disintegrate on you cos they used the traditional kind of threads for stitching.

                                            Of course they will stick to cotton. It’s an aesthetic choice for them and I admire the principle.

                                            I think that for a lot of Samurai fans the popped stitches on the arctuates etc is part of the charm, something I totally understand.

                                            I also agree that for your average school library/office chair/coffee shop/bar user there is unlikely to ever be an issue with the crotch or zip seam failing, for example.

                                            However if I was going to use my jeans for riding a bike or horse, construction, physical labour, hiking etc I’d want to use IH over any other brand, any day of the week. The mileage you get from IH in those conditions is far superior to any other brand I’ve had.

                                            I’d suggest that is due to the purpose the designer envisioned for the jeans and fabrics.

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                                            We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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