IH-301S

[jacoavlu]

I don't mean to belabor this issue
I don't even own the 301
but if my logic is wrong that bothers me, so I gotta know…

yes you can make a taper jean showing selvage
and you could "achieve the same silhouette" with a redesign of the 301 cut
but is it correct that you could not make the 301 as it is now showing selvage?

[Giles]

I answered because it is a moot point.

The 301S does not have selvedge, it was designed that way, partly because when it was originally conceived by Tom and Haraki it was destined to be sold to the Haraki's domestic customers (who on the whole are bikers and don't give a jot about selvedge, preferring cut and construction to be their driver), Haraki decided not to release it in Japan and Kiya decided to take the jean.  I gave him exclusivity to the cut, because (and this is an example of where I sometimes allow my own preferences to dictate a rational business decision) I personally do not like the cut.  It will require a change to the whole pattern to get a selvedge line down the seam.  There would be no change to the silhouette if we did do this.  Personally, I prefer Haraki to work on new stuff, rather than spend time redesigning something that a lot of people already like and buy, just to show a bit of selvedge.

So it won't happen.

[Giles]

@jacoavlu:

but is it correct that you could not make the 301 as it is now showing selvage?

It would require a redesign that would extend all the way through the top block, it is not just a matter of cutting the side seam against the selvedge.

[madmonday]

G there was no point. it was just one of those how you say, hypotheticals for the sake of banter.  you are again correct, why mess with a good thing when people love the cut of the  301s.

i'll be over here in the corner awaiting my lashes.

**told you i could pick up seul & we could deal with the issue

[Giles]

@monday:

i'll be over here in the corner awaiting my lashes.

Mme B is packing…...

[madmonday]

well tell her to hurry up these assless chaps are prety uncomfortable & it's hard to type with my toes since my hands are all bound up, hahahahahahahaha

i'm out of here, 301s thread is dangerous for your boy

[jacoavlu]

thanks for the knowledge as always G
I hope you don't think I was asking because I wanted or was even interested in a redo of the jean to show selvage
I care not in that
was more interested in clarification of your answer to know whether the assumption I was spouting was wrong
which of course it was

I really like the way you do business G, how sometimes your personal likes/dislikes contribute to what maybe should instead be pure business decisions
obviously it works for you
keep doing what you do

[Giles]

I did not think you wanted to do a redo of the 301S and I knew it was in your quest for clarification.  My problem is I am as OCD as you lot and sometimes i too find it hard to put the bone down…...

[Giles]

@monday:

well tell her to hurry up these assless chaps are prety uncomfortable & it's hard to type with my toes since my hands are all bound up, hahahahahahahaha

Any chance you can use the self timer on your camera with your toes?

[jacoavlu]

haha
perfect analogy
couldn't have said it better

[Finn666]

great explanation there G.
and i always thought slim/tight cuts couldn`t have the selvage line showing at the hem…damn mynudies forum

[Giles]

Finn,  It may be that some slim tight cant have the selvedge showing, I was really just talking about the 301S here.

[Finn666]

gotcha…but i think the 301s are almost cut the same way as some Nudie slims so it actually also could be possible...but thats another story! Im all about IH now so leave that problem to the others

[Finn666]

we just can imagine how these 301s look all the way down…damn!

[barun]

I have one more 301 question but this time, lets try to keep from losing our minds people!  Is the arc on the pockets specifically for this jean?  Sorry if that's a stupid question…

[Beatle]

nope.

[jacoavlu]

its also on the 9301 and 7301
any outside the x301 series?

[madmonday]

glad you asked the question jaco.  i said i wouldn't ask any 

the arcs remind me of that brief experimental period they had with arcs after the levi's lawsuit . . .

[Seul]

You mean the period where they had NO arcs?.. 

[madmonday]

nope wrong again seul.

they had these crazy arcs, not sure if they sold any of them but i've seen them.  don't have access to photobucket so it will be a while before i ge the flicks up, but they do exist.