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    • madmondayM
      madmonday
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      i said don't answer G, hahahahahahahahahaha

      who took a  pee in your cheerios?  i'll round up seul & we can take care of it

      back to angry face

      head high, middle finger higher

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      • J
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        I don't mean to belabor this issue
        I don't even own the 301
        but if my logic is wrong that bothers me, so I gotta know…

        yes you can make a taper jean showing selvage
        and you could "achieve the same silhouette" with a redesign of the 301 cut
        but is it correct that you could not make the 301 as it is now showing selvage?

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        • GilesG
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          I answered because it is a moot point.

          The 301S does not have selvedge, it was designed that way, partly because when it was originally conceived by Tom and Haraki it was destined to be sold to the Haraki's domestic customers (who on the whole are bikers and don't give a jot about selvedge, preferring cut and construction to be their driver), Haraki decided not to release it in Japan and Kiya decided to take the jean.  I gave him exclusivity to the cut, because (and this is an example of where I sometimes allow my own preferences to dictate a rational business decision) I personally do not like the cut.  It will require a change to the whole pattern to get a selvedge line down the seam.  There would be no change to the silhouette if we did do this.  Personally, I prefer Haraki to work on new stuff, rather than spend time redesigning something that a lot of people already like and buy, just to show a bit of selvedge.

          So it won't happen.

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          • GilesG
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            @jacoavlu:

            but is it correct that you could not make the 301 as it is now showing selvage?

            It would require a redesign that would extend all the way through the top block, it is not just a matter of cutting the side seam against the selvedge.

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            • madmondayM
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              G there was no point. it was just one of those how you say, hypotheticals for the sake of banter.  you are again correct, why mess with a good thing when people love the cut of the  301s.

              i'll be over here in the corner awaiting my lashes.

              **told you i could pick up seul & we could deal with the issue

              head high, middle finger higher

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              • GilesG
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                @monday:

                i'll be over here in the corner awaiting my lashes.

                Mme B is packing…...

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                • madmondayM
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                  well tell her to hurry up these assless chaps are prety uncomfortable & it's hard to type with my toes since my hands are all bound up, hahahahahahahaha

                  i'm out of here, 301s thread is dangerous for your boy 😢

                  head high, middle finger higher

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                  • J
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                    thanks for the knowledge as always G
                    I hope you don't think I was asking because I wanted or was even interested in a redo of the jean to show selvage
                    I care not in that
                    was more interested in clarification of your answer to know whether the assumption I was spouting was wrong
                    which of course it was

                    I really like the way you do business G, how sometimes your personal likes/dislikes contribute to what maybe should instead be pure business decisions
                    obviously it works for you
                    keep doing what you do

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                    • GilesG
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                      I did not think you wanted to do a redo of the 301S and I knew it was in your quest for clarification.  My problem is I am as OCD as you lot and sometimes i too find it hard to put the bone down…...

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • GilesG
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                        @monday:

                        well tell her to hurry up these assless chaps are prety uncomfortable & it's hard to type with my toes since my hands are all bound up, hahahahahahahaha

                        Any chance you can use the self timer on your camera with your toes?

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        • J
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                          haha
                          perfect analogy
                          couldn't have said it better

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                          • Finn666F
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                            great explanation there G.
                            and i always thought slim/tight cuts couldn`t have the selvage line showing at the hem…damn mynudies forum 😃

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                            • GilesG
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                              Finn,  It may be that some slim tight cant have the selvedge showing, I was really just talking about the 301S here.

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              • Finn666F
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                                gotcha…but i think the 301s are almost cut the same way as some Nudie slims so it actually also could be possible...but thats another story! Im all about IH now so leave that problem to the others 😉

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                                • Finn666F
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                                  we just can imagine how these 301s look all the way down…damn!

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                                  • barunB
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                                    I have one more 301 question but this time, lets try to keep from losing our minds people!  Is the arc on the pockets specifically for this jean?  Sorry if that's a stupid question…

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                                    • BeatleB
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                                      nope.

                                      We can do anything

                                      http://bybeatle.com

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                                      • J
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                                        its also on the 9301 and 7301
                                        any outside the x301 series?

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                                        • madmondayM
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                                          glad you asked the question jaco.  i said i wouldn't ask any  😢

                                          the arcs remind me of that brief experimental period they had with arcs after the levi's lawsuit . . .

                                          head high, middle finger higher

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                                          • SeulS
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                                            You mean the period where they had NO arcs?..  😉

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