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    • madmondayM
      madmonday
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      get it seams, & i forgot my angry face again

      301s are really loved in some circles.  wonder if the 666s are seen as the heir or just another slim cut?

      just rhetorical, no need to answer anyone & besides slim jeans aren't really my thing  😶

      head high, middle finger higher

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      • GilesG
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        The 301S was originally conceived as a non selvedge jean.  The same silhouette could be achieved to show the selvedge line, but it would be a radical redesign.  I originally thought it was due to the taper, but learnt otherswise when I was designing the Devils's Fit with Tom and Haraki….

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        • Finn666F
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          ^great infos right there…so this would/could/should also be a new type of jean which IH will come out with one day!

          @monday:

          i see said the blind monday.  G$ don't worry, after the thing with finn no question from me for a week.

          word to jiminy cricket. . . unless you put up new product, hahahahahahahaha

          so i got you all confused or have you used all your power on typing, dealing with me? 😃

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          • madmondayM
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            G$ you are a glutton for punishment.

            why would it be a radical redesign to show the selvedge line on the 301s?

            was jaco correct in his summation of why the selvedge line is not shown on the 301s?

            okay don't answer any of that. wait a week since i said no questions, hahahhahahhahahaaha.

            for real & besides i would rather see a picture of some jeans

            head high, middle finger higher

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            • CaptainC
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              301S pic here: http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=9.msg90020#msg90020

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              • madmondayM
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                smile at captain.

                so, er what is going on in that photo????

                looks like thety caught you midstream or something, hahahahahahahaha

                your jeans are coming along very nicely 😉

                head high, middle finger higher

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                • GilesG
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                  @monday:

                  G$ you are a glutton for punishment.

                  why would it be a radical redesign to show the selvedge line on the 301s?

                  was jaco correct in his summation of why the selvedge line is not shown on the 301s?

                  okay don't answer any of that. wait a week since i said no questions, hahahhahahhahahaaha.

                  for real & besides i would rather see a picture of some jeans

                  Because Haraki said it would be.  That's all I need to know.

                  It is possible to get a selvedge line on a tapered jean, but the fundamental design needs to be changed.

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • CaptainC
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                    at monday: i'm making room for more beer… 😛

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                    • madmondayM
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                      i said don't answer G, hahahahahahahahahaha

                      who took a  pee in your cheerios?  i'll round up seul & we can take care of it

                      back to angry face

                      head high, middle finger higher

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                      • J
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                        I don't mean to belabor this issue
                        I don't even own the 301
                        but if my logic is wrong that bothers me, so I gotta know…

                        yes you can make a taper jean showing selvage
                        and you could "achieve the same silhouette" with a redesign of the 301 cut
                        but is it correct that you could not make the 301 as it is now showing selvage?

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                        • GilesG
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                          I answered because it is a moot point.

                          The 301S does not have selvedge, it was designed that way, partly because when it was originally conceived by Tom and Haraki it was destined to be sold to the Haraki's domestic customers (who on the whole are bikers and don't give a jot about selvedge, preferring cut and construction to be their driver), Haraki decided not to release it in Japan and Kiya decided to take the jean.  I gave him exclusivity to the cut, because (and this is an example of where I sometimes allow my own preferences to dictate a rational business decision) I personally do not like the cut.  It will require a change to the whole pattern to get a selvedge line down the seam.  There would be no change to the silhouette if we did do this.  Personally, I prefer Haraki to work on new stuff, rather than spend time redesigning something that a lot of people already like and buy, just to show a bit of selvedge.

                          So it won't happen.

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          • GilesG
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                            @jacoavlu:

                            but is it correct that you could not make the 301 as it is now showing selvage?

                            It would require a redesign that would extend all the way through the top block, it is not just a matter of cutting the side seam against the selvedge.

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • madmondayM
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                              G there was no point. it was just one of those how you say, hypotheticals for the sake of banter.  you are again correct, why mess with a good thing when people love the cut of the  301s.

                              i'll be over here in the corner awaiting my lashes.

                              **told you i could pick up seul & we could deal with the issue

                              head high, middle finger higher

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                              • GilesG
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                                @monday:

                                i'll be over here in the corner awaiting my lashes.

                                Mme B is packing…...

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                • madmondayM
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                                  well tell her to hurry up these assless chaps are prety uncomfortable & it's hard to type with my toes since my hands are all bound up, hahahahahahahaha

                                  i'm out of here, 301s thread is dangerous for your boy 😢

                                  head high, middle finger higher

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                                  • J
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                                    thanks for the knowledge as always G
                                    I hope you don't think I was asking because I wanted or was even interested in a redo of the jean to show selvage
                                    I care not in that
                                    was more interested in clarification of your answer to know whether the assumption I was spouting was wrong
                                    which of course it was

                                    I really like the way you do business G, how sometimes your personal likes/dislikes contribute to what maybe should instead be pure business decisions
                                    obviously it works for you
                                    keep doing what you do

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                                    • GilesG
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                                      I did not think you wanted to do a redo of the 301S and I knew it was in your quest for clarification.  My problem is I am as OCD as you lot and sometimes i too find it hard to put the bone down…...

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      • GilesG
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                                        @monday:

                                        well tell her to hurry up these assless chaps are prety uncomfortable & it's hard to type with my toes since my hands are all bound up, hahahahahahahaha

                                        Any chance you can use the self timer on your camera with your toes?

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                        • J
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                                          haha
                                          perfect analogy
                                          couldn't have said it better

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                                          • Finn666F
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                                            great explanation there G.
                                            and i always thought slim/tight cuts couldn`t have the selvage line showing at the hem…damn mynudies forum 😃

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