Smokers Anonymous
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I get the occassional person waving their hands in front of their faces, and once in a blue moon someone telling me how bad it is for me, but my usual response is "what's your problem? It's not like I'm kicking your ass on the sidewalk"
I'm usually pretty calm and zen, but I have a low tolerance for people who feel the need to make themselves feel superior by stating the obvious
I smoke Newports
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Aren't you guys state-side much more heavily proscribed than us Euros? Like, aren't you shunned by the vapid clean living mall zombies that surround you?
It is like I am an alien out here in California smoking. I have somewhat of a "fuck you" attitude when it comes to all that. I mean, I am considerate and would never smoke next to children and try to stay away from people while I do smoke. However, if I am outside of a bar or walking down the street and you look at me with a sour puss face because I am making a decision to smoke outside in the public… the FUCK YOU!
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smoking has been a part of human culture for hundreds and hundreds of years. to me a jazz bar without people smoking sounds more like a juice bar…
We can do anything
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I understand all perspectives but smoking does cause people to die in a horrible way that they may otherwise never have had to suffer through. Yes of course in comparison to the bigger issues around the globe it is petty, but to those who lose family and friends from something that can completely be avoided, it is awful. I struggle with it every day. I understand the benefits for myself as well as the fact that it is killing me slowly. That is some crazy stuff to think about… On that note, I am going to have a smoke. This thread is stressing me out! ???
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Seriously, for fuck sakes…people are killing each other around the world...Jessie cheated on Sandra...and Kirstie Alley has another show about her being fat...I don't understand why people make such a big deal about smoking when you look at the big picture...
Again, DougNg…HILARIOUS !
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I get the occassional person waving their hands in front of their faces, and once in a blue moon someone telling me how bad it is for me, but my usual response is "what's your problem? It's not like I'm kicking your ass on the sidewalk"
Aren't you guys state-side much more heavily proscribed than us Euros? Like, aren't you shunned by the vapid clean living mall zombies that surround you?
It is like I am an alien out here in California smoking. I have somewhat of a "fuck you" attitude when it comes to all that. I mean, I am considerate and would never smoke next to children and try to stay away from people while I do smoke. However, if I am outside of a bar or walking down the street and you look at me with a sour puss face because I am making a decision to smoke outside in the public… the FUCK YOU!
smoking has been a part of human culture for hundreds and hundreds of years. to me a jazz bar without people smoking sounds more like a juice bar…
Some of the best statements I read on here ever!
Doug, I love that response. Will have to use that some time.Lando, yours is exactly my attitude.
Beatle, you're right, a jazz bar without smokers seems like a kindergarten. Although if they have singers, I can understand why one shouldn't necessarily smoke, unless the singer smokes, too.
I smoke cigars; not much, maybe one every ten days. But smoking cigars in public is almost impossible in the US.
Till
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…once in a blue moon...
I have both done this (gently, but appropriatly to people younger than me, natch) and been told this, the latter more recently as I was at nearby CVS and the guy told me about his cancer and it's effect on his daughter. Then, he proceeded to draw an analogy from the life degrading effects of smoking tobacco to (presumably his??) engaging in illict sex, to which my only response was, 'well, i'm not into illict sex, so that's one less self-contradictory behavior'.
I don't think there's anything wrong with discussing the good/bad/ugly effects of anything, but when the 'think of of children!' hand-waving starts is when I drag extra deep for all the other intangible horrors ignored.
I smoke American Spirits and wish Lucky Strikes still made the rounds.
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Point is to make more money for the industry. You smoke more to get to the required nicotine level. But that also means you smoke more paper and shit. They say it is probably better not to smoke lights. The other thing is that they are supposed to give you the illusion that smoking lights is not as bad for you.
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Here's a shocker. I'm a celebrity-obsessed person. I love LA road-trips, if not for any other reason – to possibly bump into celebs. But, one time I was curious...so I googled celebrity smokers. Let me say this -- find a celebrity who doesn't smoke ! Gwynneth Paltrow used to be a chain smoker in her 20s (while dating Brad Pitt) but now as a yoga-fanatic, health-nut Mom (married to teetotaler/health freak Chris Martin), Gwynnie has given up nicotine for good, finally. Madonna is pretty much the only celeb who doesn't smoke, and I know that Madonna nagged Gwyn til she gave it up. I was shocked to find that even Natalie Portman, Reese Witherspoon, Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, Nicole Kidman and Jennifer Anniston light up. And everyone knows that beautiful boy Brad Pitt loves to smoke cannabis – cigs are a no-brainer for Brad. Oh yeah, Tom Cruise is another non-smoker...but he's a Scientologist, which sucks.
OK, Angelina Jolie doesn't smoke, but she's mentally insane so what's the diff ? (Anyone who keeps adopting random kids beyond the point of no return is mentally off kilter, IMHO). The point is, it seems like most celebrities do smoke...and I wonder why ? I don't know the answer...they certainly have all the world's resources available at their finger-tips -- to "buy a support network" which can help them quit. Perhaps they enjoy smoking and really don't want to quit ? -
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You smoke more to get to the required nicotine level. But that also means you smoke more paper and shit.
i believe you're thinking of 100s or 72s, for the longer and shorter marlboro stogs.
i think generally, we smoke the same amount of paper per 85mm cig, unless it's a camel wide or whatever because they're all factory rolled.personally, i think marlboro mediums taste the best. but those and reds leave an overhwleming stank on your clothes/hair (more than marlboro lights, imo). marlboro 27s is good and has a kick to it, but each one is different since it's just hot-dog tobacco.
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FWIW, when I was 16 – I found a marijuana joint in my dad's jacket pocket. I asked him, "Dad, what's this ?". He explained to me that it was cannabis -- and offered to "introduce me" to the technique. My Dad was a psychiatrist -- and saw great good in cannabis. I turned my dad down, but don't respect him any less for what he did. My dad was the type -- he'd rather I try it under his supervision than not -- and he knew that I was going to try it anyway (which I did, in college -- it was a short-lived phase). At his expense (RIP, Dad) -- I was sufficiently scared away from smoking nicotine, however. And smoking cigs (nicotine) was something my Dad definitely discouraged me from trying -- he never, ever wanted me to go there !
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^ hahahaha, check to see if he spits after every drag. hahaha. and damn, i miss packing my friends' smokes.
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simon626 – hilarious story about your dad ! I can just picture this old, balding Chinese dude, fumbling with cigarettes, trying in vain to look suave and cool--cracks me up !!!...I have pictures of my handsome dad taking a drag with his Porsche Carrera sunglasses and Armani suit on...and trust me, the man is the epitome of cool.
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I smoked for many, many years until in 2006 I gave it up completely. Cold Turkey. I had quit before, even for longer periods of times (couple of years the longest), but started again when I went back to school for my grad. degree. What a pain that was. Trying to get back into cycling and good shape I quit for good. Now I smoke only cigars. Hmmmmmm Cigars. I don't seem to get the addiction to cigars like I did with cigarettes. I can smoke three cigars in a day or go without for weeks.
Smoking a nice Rocky Patel 99 Connecticut vintage right now on my balcony.
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nixage, congratulations on overcoming your nicotine-addiction. From the looks of it, you used the same technique my Mom used to quit smoking – rigorous physical exercise. Somehow, once my Mom started regular long distance running, giving up cigarettes was easier. No doubt, exercise increases the circulation of endorphins in your bloodstream -- which helps to combat the pain of withdrawal.
