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    Biltbuck Lot 444 by Attraction

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    • Luijim78L
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      @smittybat I have a pair of Wesco MR Lou in Maryam Horsehide leather (as you said they also produce in Horween CXL) and a pair of lot.444, they are also in Maryam Horsehide but as you said they are very different in shape. The leather, even though they are from the same Tuscan tannery, is treated differently. The leather of the lot 444 is less tenacious and dyed more on the surface, the Teacore effect is extremely faster and more beautiful in my opinion. Between the two, the lot 444 are definitely much more comfortable and roomy and are my favorite (I wear a size 9 in both but for the lot 444 I would probably have gotten by with an 8.5.

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      • Daniel SanD
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        my 269 should land today, pretty curious about them .
        did you bought yours recently?
        what about some pics 😁

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          Recieved my 269s this, but only got to wear them for a few hours. Some comparison photos between 269 and 444 and Mr Lou Black HH.
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          • Daniel SanD
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            just received my 269 .
            Awesome boots but the last is not mine.
            it’s pretty wide compared to the 444 .
            I guess they will get even wider when worn in and then they are definitely too big.
            So I have to wait for the 444 to restock in my size.

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            • ZackBZ
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              @Daniel-San damn, sorry to hear that. I was curious about your thoughts on these. 269 is definitely out of my wheelhouse house too if it’s wider than the 444.

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              • FlavourFadeF
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                I am really impressed by these boots. Hows the shaft? Narrow enough to wear under 555 or not? Are they roomier than Lofgrens engineer boots? I just got some Wescos for now but you need to make plans no?

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                wtb:
                The Pale Rider XXL

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                • Daniel SanD
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                  @ZackB
                  they are wider than the 444. For me the problem is that I have to wear orthopedic insoles and therefore I need to size up . So they might be good for you even they are a little wider than the 444. Guess they would be ok for me if I could wear my normal size 9.5 without insoles. but sizing up and a little wider makes them too big for me.

                  the leather is much thinner and softer than the sturdy horse butt on the 444, but that makes them interesting for those who look after comfortable boots out of the box .

                  @FlavourFade
                  they are definitely wider than the Lofgren !
                  but the shaft is wider too . I didn’t manage the 444 to work with my 555, but the 269 seem to have a shaft that’s a little more narrow than the 444 have . And as the leather is much softer it might work.

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                  • pechelmanP
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                    width aside, how does the instep compare to a mr. lou?

                    Specifically I have a slightly narrow foot, but more of a problem is that I have a fairly low volume / low instep to where most boots fit extremely sloppy on the top of my foot where a slip on boot needs to fit a little snug.

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                    • Daniel SanD
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                      can’t compare them to the Wesco’s .
                      But if you want engineers that fit like a sock , than Clinch is the way to go 😁.
                      Role Club would be a great alternative too, and easier to get at the moment I guess.

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                      • pechelmanP
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                        Thanks @Daniel-San
                        The wesco has the right instep for me in a standard D width but the toe height is pretty low. I requested more toe height in a new wesco custom mr. lous that should be ready next week, so I'm hopeful for those. I'll checkout those other boots, hopefully i can find somewhere to try them on.

                        Most other pull on boots ive tried fit me terribly b/c of this.

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                        • FlavourFadeF
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                          @Daniel-San thanks a lot! They look amazing, maybe I have to look into them. I wonder if the pair you don't keep is my size 😰

                          Insta: free_the_fades

                          wtb:
                          The Pale Rider XXL

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                          • Daniel SanD
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                            they are size 10

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                            • FlavourFadeF
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                              @Daniel-San sadly it's not in the budget right now after giving it some thought. Looking forward to the next Updates in this thread though.

                              Will you get the black hh lot444 ones instead?

                              Insta: free_the_fades

                              wtb:
                              The Pale Rider XXL

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                              • Daniel SanD
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                                yes that’s the plan. Hope they arrive soon. but might be a few months 😕

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                                  • Daniel SanD
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                                    Awesome news 😁
                                    the black 444 are on the way and if everything’s going well , they will arrive tomorrow 👏

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                                    • FlavourFadeF
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                                      @Daniel-San where did you get them? Was checking in on a couple of stockists the last weeks but never found an available pair in my size. Think we are the same size (9.5us) ??

                                      Edit: just double checked for size and you seem to be a 10

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                                      wtb:
                                      The Pale Rider XXL

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                                      • Daniel SanD
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                                        yes , need a 10 because of my orthotics. otherwise a 9.5 would be my size in these.

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                                        • Daniel SanD
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                                          they are from Eastwestapparal , sorry didn’t mention that

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                                          • FlavourFadeF
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                                            @Daniel-San awesome!! You are lucky I did not see the 9.5s 😠 🤣

                                            Excited for some pics hopefully tomorrow!!!

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                                            wtb:
                                            The Pale Rider XXL

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