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    • Finn666F
      Finn666
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      that colorway is the shit!
      any chance on bringing that one back G.?

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      • Max PowerM
        Max Power
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        It reminds me of one Glory PArk Flannel I loved. This fabric is awesome and I'd buy it in a second.

        @elclintor:

        > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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        • RocknRollR
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          I saw a comment recently about the 'amount of oxidation being a factor in the way a denim looks. I'm interested in more detail about this - can anyone elaborate?  I understand the concept of oxidation, but not it's application in this instance.

          cheers

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          • scroogenS
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            Indigo works by a chemical reaction called oxidation-reduction.
            Indigo does not dissolve in water. It must be
            reduced — i.e. the oxygen must be removed— in the
            presence of alkali
            by a reducing
            agent such as
            thiourea dioxide
            (thiox), sodium
            hydrosulfite, Zinc, or bacteria. Upon reduction, indigo
            becomes colorless and water soluble. In this state,
            indigo has a high affinity for cellulosic fibers and enters
            the open spaces of the fiber. The dyed fibers are then
            exposed to air, which oxidizes the dye molecule back to
            its insoluble form. The insoluble dye particles are
            trapped inside the fiber, coloring them permanently blue.
            Unlike most dyes, indigo forms a mechanical, not
            chemical, bond.

            Ok.  So in it's reduced state (oxygen taken out, water soluble) indigo is colorless and will adhere to fibres.  When air is introduced (oxidization no longer soluble) the fibres are turned blue.  This is why in rope dyeing they are put in the vat, taken out, left to dry and then the steps are repeated to achieve the desired hue/darkness. 
            hope this helps!


            heres the link i pulled that blurb from.  I'm no scientist! (opens as PDF)
            http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.cornell.edu%2Fgarden%2Ffiles%2F2009%2F04%2Fintroduction3.pdf&ei=dWWsUO_aPMuy0AH3jIDwBg&usg=AFQjCNE1XEx_k9aie3imZ-4SAVLwDn1poQ

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            • FridayF
              Friday
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              Thanks for that info scroogen.. Nice one…

              Tough, heavy and ready! = IRON HEART

              ~Shinici Haraki~

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              • RocknRollR
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                That makes sense, thanks. It's been a long time since organic chemistry at university, so I'm pretty rusty on some of the theory.

                Extrapolating from this it would seem logical that the greater the 'rest' time between dips, the more intense the colour.

                So for maximum indigo colouring, you would go for a lot of dips, with a long rest time between dips.

                Yeah?

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                • GilesG
                  Giles
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                  Yes

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • M
                    MikeC
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                    Fabrics…..

                    (l to r) 17oz Cotton Duck, 14oz Double Weave Corduroy, 12oz Wabash Twill, 23oz Serge and 18oz Unsanforized Denim

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                    • C
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                      14.5 oz LHT sample, 21oz standard, SBG, 18oz, 23oz

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                      • einstineE
                        einstine
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                        @MikeC:

                        Fabrics…..

                        (l to r) 17oz Cotton Duck, 14oz Double Weave Corduroy, 12oz Wabash Twill, 23oz Serge and 18oz Unsanforized Denim

                        That self edge belt hook get rusted like that?

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                          MikeC
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                          It's not rusty. It's just dirty and its the reflection from the flash. It was taken inside.

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                          • seanoconoS
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                            I actually think it looks even better with a little natural, silver tarnish on it.

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                            • einstineE
                              einstine
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                              Yea, it deff looks good. Didnt think it would rust like that though, before you told me it was not rusted. Had to ask.

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