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    IH-634S - 21oz Selvedge Denim Straight Cut Jeans - Indigo

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    • neph93N
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      Can't really carry a bag with me when I'm working, innit… I'd look like a massive ballbag...

      Fanny pack/bum bag? [emoji6]

      “Some of those that work forces
      Are the same that burn crosses”

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      • Stuart.TS
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        In my experience of 21oz denim, not just IH 21oz,it just doesn't last as well as a lighter weave such as 14oz. The polycotton stitching is more prone to failing, naturally, as the heavier/wider gauge used doesn't provide suffient purchase for stitching to hold firmly over any period of time.

        A lighter weight dehim such as 14/15 oz (which IH also manufactures) does provide a better purchase/ground for hem/pocket/etc stitching.

        That said, it is a beautiful feeling denim when it breaks in and softens, so there is the trade off.

        I have never bought into the rationale that a brand's owner ONLY produces items that they would want/use. That would be a vanity project damned to failure in the long run. I've noticed the ss 20 range seems to have a different aesthetic to previous seasons, and that is nothing to do with it being an SS season rather that AW season.

        I imagine brands have a choice, keep producing the same think over and over, keeping reasonably consistent (the Motorhead business model!), or  change things up from time to time, which brings in new customers, but risks criticism from others (the Sepultura/Slayer model!).

        @USSR do you own any other IH products? A UHF, 14 oz denim etc? I completely uphold your right to criticise a product, but not necessarily to criticise a whole brand based on one model. That does goad the wolves to circle, as has happened here. Non-domestic sales are incredibly important to Japanese brands at the moment, so any criticisms that that may advertantly or inadvertently damage reputation would understandably be met with challenge.

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        • GilesG
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          @Stuart.T:

          I have never bought into the rationale that a brand's owner ONLY produces items that they would want/use. That would be a vanity project damned to failure in the long run. I've noticed the ss 20 range seems to have a different aesthetic to previous seasons, and that is nothing to do with it being an SS season rather that AW season.

          Haraki absolutely 100% used to make only stuff he would like/wear.  It was a continuing frustration to me, but I did rather like the integrity of Haraki's position.  When we were in Bangkok a couple of weeks ago, Haraki said during a discussion about moving the brand forward "I have decided that I will start making stuff that our customers want, not just what I like", I had to place my hand on his forehead at that point as I thought he was being delirious…. 🙂 🙂

          The SS20 collection reflects his changing mood.

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          • Stuart.TS
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            I suspected something along these lines. Your business acumen won over… Eventually  😉

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            • USSRU
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              not necessarily to criticise a whole brand based on one model

              I dont criticise a whole brand I tell only about 634S 10 years old.
              When did I criticise a whole brand, proof it

              Лучше джинсов, могут быть только хорошие джинсы!

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              • Stuart.TS
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                @USSR:

                not necessarily to criticise a whole brand based on one model

                I dont criticise a whole brand I tell only about 634S 10 years old.
                When did I criticise a whole brand, proof it

                To quote 'It is more comfortable pocket in Samurai. Because my palm fit easy in it.' you mention another brand, not another brand's model of jeans, though I might be guilty of semantics there  😉

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                • neph93N
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                  Unknown washes, some nice 21 oz evo, Obenauf for the patch from time to time giving it the love that this wonderful pair of denim deserves

                  [emoji106][emoji106][emoji106]

                  In all the palava, I missed these. Beauties!

                  “Some of those that work forces
                  Are the same that burn crosses”

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                  • Stuart.TS
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                    This year my 634 S turned 9 years old  ???
                    They are alive and feel great!!!

                    What changed in year 9-10?

                    On a positive note, I really admire any of you that rock this cut. My waist to hem ratio is now just too middle aged to get away with 634s'.

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                    • ChapC
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                      @Chap:

                      Unknown washes, some nice 21 oz evo, Obenauf for the patch from time to time giving it the love that this wonderful pair of denim deserves

                      [emoji106][emoji106][emoji106]

                      In all the palava, I missed these. Beauties!

                      Yes they are thanks @neph93  My intro to the IH world, I really love them. About 5 years old as far as I remember. A true friendship.

                      God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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                      • UnTuckedU
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                        10yrs, and still that solid?!

                        Unappreciative much?!

                        Definitely has another 3-5yrs life in them!

                        In search of:
                        IHV-04, med.
                        IHSH-185, large
                        IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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                        • ChapC
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                          634S is no high contrast fader… but I think that’s not too bad

                          God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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                          • neph93N
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                            The 21oz fades in such a unique way. I’ve just bought the PXIH10AN jeans and I’m hoping for something similar over time. They are even and smooth like the 21oz. Lovely jeans @Chap

                            “Some of those that work forces
                            Are the same that burn crosses”

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                            • DougNgD
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                              I've been into Japanese denim for close to 15 years, IH 21oz is probably my favorite denim for my purposes. I've owned more types and weights of denim than I care to keep track of.

                              I wear jeans in an environment where almost everyone wears slacks, khakis or suits. I can get away with wearing jeans (even though I'm in a relatively high position and expected to be more formal) because the 21oz doesn't have high contrast fades. It's just more versatile, I wear them at meetings with executive management as well as going out to dinner or running back and forth at the shooting range or going spelunking with my dogs.

                              They look great with a tucked in shirt and sport coat or paired with my MA1 or with rifle magazines on my belt and a plate carrier up top.

                              I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                              • ChapC
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                                My flawed and much beloved 634S (sorry for hands in my pockets  ;))

                                God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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                                • neph93N
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                                  @Chap:

                                  My flawed and much beloved 634S (sorry for hands in my pockets  ;))

                                  Damn, your hands must be tiny! Does that make it easier to get them into peoples mouths? [emoji6][emoji1]

                                  “Some of those that work forces
                                  Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                  • ChapC
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                                    @Chap:

                                    My flawed and much beloved 634S (sorry for hands in my pockets  ;))

                                    Damn, your hands must be tiny! Does that make it easier to get them into peoples mouths? [emoji6][emoji1]

                                    😃 😃 😃 sure

                                    God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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                                    • DougNgD
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                                      Jesuschristpleasebeadentistnotsomethingweird

                                      I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                                      • neph93N
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                                        “Some of those that work forces
                                        Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                        • goosehdG
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                                          "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                          • Matty123M
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                                            Maybe so. Maybe not

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