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    • RobeOfTheMagiR
      RobeOfTheMagi
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      Hello surly riders,

      I need some advice for surly bike frames:

      I’m looking for a straggler frame that I’d like to ride with a drop bar. I’d say that 56 is usually my bike size, but Surlys seem to measure really large (I’ve never had a Surly). I’m 178cm tall and my standover hight is 84 cm (without shoes). I have a neutral ape index and slightly longer legs than torso.

      Would you recommend a size medium (54) or large (56) for me?

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      • goosehdG
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        @RobeOfTheMagi You might have better luck going over to the forums at https://www.pinkbike.com/

        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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        • Denimhead 0D
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          Paceline.net is another great site.

          IG - gratefuldenimhead (jeans and boots), Norseamerican (bicycles)

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          • RobeOfTheMagiR
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            Cheers lads!

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            • JCMx800J
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              I am also into gravel bikes. My road bike is collecting dust.

              This is my Standert Kettensäge (Chainsaw) it’s made from Scandium, the little brother from Titanium.
              650b wheels with 48mm Rene Herse tyres. Tyres are made in Japan of course!

              Les Paul -> ProCo Rat -> Super HardOn -> JCM800 Low Input
              XXX

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              • Denimhead 0D
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                @JCMx800 Nice ride! Fatties for the win 🏆

                IG - gratefuldenimhead (jeans and boots), Norseamerican (bicycles)

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                • BrockB
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                  @JCMx800 that’s cool. Never heard of Scandium… love the RH knobbies

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                  • R
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                    @RobeOfTheMagi

                    hey dude, i’ve had a couple surly stragglers.
                    i’m 185cm and ride a 56cm, so i think a 54cm would be best for you based on this info.

                    you’re correct in that surly’s tend to run large but more specifically the effective top tube is long. so being long in the legs and short in the torso is not gonna help you.

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                    • scarfmaceS
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                      Menacing sky on yesterdays ride

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                      "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."

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                      • RobeOfTheMagiR
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                        @rewseph Cheers mate! 54 is exactly what I thought as well! I usually ride 56cm top tube frames.

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                          @RobeOfTheMagi cheers! happy to help 🍻

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                          • scarfmaceS
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                            Taking the long way home

                            "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."

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                            • scarfmaceS
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                              Just added another thing to the list of things I didn't know existed yesterday and must have tomorrow:

                              Silca SuperPista Ultimate Hiro Edition

                              That thing is a piece of functional art.

                              Just look at this review: https://pezcyclingnews.com/technspec/silca-superpista-ultimate-pump-review/

                              "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."

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                              • RobeOfTheMagiR
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                                I'm thinking about getting a Ritchey Swiss Cross, however I'm not sure whether the geometry is too racy for me.

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                                • scarfmaceS
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                                  @RobeOfTheMagi said in Gravel Bikes:

                                  Ritchey Swiss Cross

                                  I don't know the brand but a quick search shows a max tire clearance of 40mm, that is low by current standards. Now it should be at least 50mm. Wider is better in gravel. Both for comfort and speed.

                                  I'm running 34's right now and I will increase to 45mm with my next set for sure!

                                  Loads of people are experimenting with MTB tires even.

                                  "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."

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                                  • FlavourFadeF
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                                    Got myself a Canyon grizl 5 a couple weeks ago to add a little diversity to my workout routine. Total newbie

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                                    Insta: free_the_fades

                                    wtb:
                                    The Pale Rider XXL

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                                    • RobeOfTheMagiR
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                                      @scarfmace said in Gravel Bikes:

                                      @RobeOfTheMagi said in Gravel Bikes:

                                      Ritchey Swiss Cross

                                      I don't know the brand

                                      Here's an introduction to the Legend Tom Ritchey:

                                      ❤

                                      But you're right. Since it's a cyclocross frame, the tire size is smaller than we'd expect in a gravel bike. To me 40mm tires are still quite big. I'm more concerned about the lack of braze-ons and the more racy geometry. I'm by no means a racer.

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                                      • scarfmaceS
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                                        Cool guy, thanks for sharing! I'm new to cycling so basically everything I know is from deep diving the internet and I'm more into the technical part then the people part of stuff.
                                        I wouldn't worry too much about the lack of braze-ons because most bags these days come with straps or Velcro mounts, just look at brands like tailfin, they can get you in full bikepacking gear without using a single bolt.

                                        The geometry is something a lot of people talk about and it all depends on your own style, I think that if you get the proper frame size it wouldn't matter all that much, a lot can be compensated by seat height, stem length and selecting the correct drop bars. A bike fit would be something I would recommend, I've done one myself after riding about 3 months and the difference is massive in comfort and performance.

                                        "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."

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                                        • BalticBobB
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                                          Does this count as a gravel bike? 😄

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                                          • Denimhead 0D
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                                            @BalticBob looks like a bad @ss one to me 👍

                                            IG - gratefuldenimhead (jeans and boots), Norseamerican (bicycles)

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