IH-1955S-18 - 18oz Vintage Selvedge Denim "1955" Vintage Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo
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@goosehd I'm just kidding around man I get it
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@goosehd just to add, it's not just iron heart having these issues, all other brands are in the same position from my understanding...
It's a miracle they're still pumping things out every week, and keeping the quality of items still on point
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@Jord said in IH-1955S-18 - 18oz Vintage Selvedge Denim "1955" Vintage Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo:
@goosehd just to add, it's not just iron heart having these issues, all other brands are in the same position from my understanding...
It's a miracle they're still pumping things out every week, and keeping the quality of items still on point
Question for those on the ground: What are the factors behind production bottlenecks in Japan? Aging workforce? Surge in demand from mall conglomerates (e.g. Levis)?
I assume the answer is a mix of everything, but which is the predominant one? If the latter, I hope the factories think long-term rather than prioritizing short-term trend chasers e.g. Zara. Sure they might have the biggest order at a point in time, but they are fairweather friends who will cut loose just as quickly
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@SuitOfUHF I'm sure @Giles or @Alex would be able to give you an answer behind production behind IH specifically, but from my understanding, it's brands are having to compete for time on the mills to produce things, with demand growing for selvedge/these products the past few years there's more people wanting these products.
That tied in with the way the products are actually made being incredibly slow, and keeping a high standard of quality...
I've heard owners of other brands say they have to put their order in for specific denims at least 2 years in advance, so it's a slow process
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@SuitOfUHF You are correct in that it is a mix of everything. Supply has remained relatively stable vs demand that has grown exponentially. The mills are at capacity putting out as much material as they can produce, but keeping the quality at the levels we are accustomed to takes time.
There is not one simple answer to a very complicated problem.
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@goosehd Thank you. I'm sure no one has 100% visibility.
Hopefully my post was clear. I think the heritage Japanese brands should have priority access to these mills, rather than the Johnny come latelies, no matter how large their order book is.
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@SuitOfUHF but there really isn’t anything to hide. There just isn’t enough time, materials, factories, equipment, personnel, etc. to make more.
At capacity means that no more can be realistically produced without something having to give. Quality is not going to be compromised to put out more products.
Realistically, I don’t think any of us would be happy with quality being compromised. We all came here for the same reason which is really well made clothing manufactured to some pretty impeccable standards.
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@SuitOfUHF said in IH-1955S-18 - 18oz Vintage Selvedge Denim "1955" Vintage Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo:
I hope the factories think long-term rather than prioritizing short-term trend chasers
That ship has sailed and we are pretty pissed off about it.....
@SuitOfUHF said in IH-1955S-18 - 18oz Vintage Selvedge Denim "1955" Vintage Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo:
but they are fairweather friends who will cut loose just as quickly
100% - It's incredulous that the mills do not recognise this
See from about 7:00 here:
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@Giles said in IH-1955S-18 - 18oz Vintage Selvedge Denim "1955" Vintage Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo:
@SuitOfUHF said in IH-1955S-18 - 18oz Vintage Selvedge Denim "1955" Vintage Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo:
I hope the factories think long-term rather than prioritizing short-term trend chasers
That ship has sailed and we are pretty pissed off about it.....
I'd imagine!
@SuitOfUHF said in IH-1955S-18 - 18oz Vintage Selvedge Denim "1955" Vintage Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo:
but they are fairweather friends who will cut loose just as quickly
100% - It's incredulous that the mills do not recognise this
See from about 7:00 here:
So much for this rose-tinted view of (some) Japanese business practices. Seems some do capitalism just like here in the West.
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@JoshC just seeing if there's any news about a potential drop date or general timeline? Trying my best to hold off on buying another pair of jeans while waiting on these. Thanks again for the help and completely understand yall have no control over when they arrive and I'm just curious.
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@JoshC no worries, thanks for the reply
