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    Best Iron Heart Models for Western Wear?

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      roydub87
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      @Appfaff I grew up in NRH and stomped all around the metroplex for the better part of 2 1/2 decades and that sounds like the scene

      Sic transit Gloria glory fades

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      • AppfaffA
        Appfaff
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        @roydub87 awesome man! Yes, I spent a lot of my high school years in NRH - it’s crazy how much everything that direction has grown. We spend two weeks in FtW during Xmas every year and every time I am just flabbergasted how things have changed. It’s sadly not the place we grew up, that’s for sure (but I guess nowhere really is anymore)

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        • twinningT
          twinning
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          @shelbington I'm nowhere even close to the expert @Appfaff is, I just got like my second, first "real", pair of cowboy boots but I'm obsessed with them. And I'm in the same boat, trying to find the jeans I think go best with them.

          I'm from the midewest but living in Louisiana the past 3 or so years, so I see a little western style wear but I haven't spent time in Texas at all so I have no idea what the etiquette is or what to look for in a fit. That said, figured I'd post some pictures to give you an idea of how different jeans compare.

          1955S-142_front.jpg
          Brand new 1955-142, hemmed to 32"

          1955S-142_side.jpg
          1955 from the side

          888S-SBG_front.jpg
          888-SBG cuffed to 34", bonus cat

          888S-SBG_side.jpg
          888 from the side-ish with cat

          634S_front.jpg
          634S never hemmed, so 34"

          634S_side.jpg
          634 from the side

          The 634s are my favorite look. The 888 or the 1955-142-OD (not pictured) are probably what I find to be most comfortable all around, but even that is a close call.

          The boots are Resistol stonewashed suede that I just picked up half off on Cavender's website sale. I also have a pair of Freenote Wilkes that I can get a couple pictures of but they are so, so skinny around the calves I don't think they look very good (but I'm not in Texas, maybe that's how people do it!?) I also hear that Freenote is doing another version of the Wilkes in like more of a "rider's cut" whatever that means, higher back pockets for sure and maybe more of a boot cut, hopefully.

          Cheers!
          Terry

          edit to add: 1955 and 634 are tag 34, 888 is a tag 35

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          • AppfaffA
            Appfaff
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            @twinning - you have some awesome fits! Those boots are great as well!

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            • jpvisualJ
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              634 is probably the closest thing. I've mentioned before that I'd still like to see a slim fit bootcut from Iron Heart similar to the classic Levis 517.

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                shelbington
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                @twinning That's super helpful! I think for me the 1955s just look great and the 634s are also my jam. Although maybe I'm just not really a stacking kind of guy.

                Going to keep waiting on that 1955 vintage release.

                Seems like a dark pair of the 1955s with boots and a white tucked in western shirt and I can look just like one of the Texas rangers in Sicario. 😂

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                  roydub87
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                  @twinning great boots man

                  Sic transit Gloria glory fades

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                  • mikebarhootM
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                    great pics @twinning! i never tried the 888 cause i didnt think i could wear em with boots. conversely, my 1 pr of 777s which are the VS colab. only pic with boots i have.

                    now just call a pig or horse farm to volunteer and muck some stalls in yer boots to give em the ‘look’. lol. joking.

                    IMG_3348.jpeg

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                    • goosehdG
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                      666-21/23 UHR
                      Cord Western
                      Havstad Open Road
                      Viberg Chelsea
                      STF

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                      • AppfaffA
                        Appfaff
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                        @goosehd - dang, Cate really aced that hat man, is that one of her “natural dyes” she makes herself? Stunning. And those stacks are looking pretty awesome!

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                        • goosehdG
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                          @Appfaff it is. It’s the sage 🙂

                          “our policy of no discussions regarding politics, religion, asparagus, and other controversial issues.” - Andrew

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                          • AppfaffA
                            Appfaff
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                            @goosehd so jealous. If I wasn’t such an impatient bastard, I’d put in an order… she really is the best

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                            • twinningT
                              twinning
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                              @roydub87 Hey thanks! And thanks everyone.

                              @mikebarhoot If you're only going to have one pic with boots, that's for sure the pic to have. Nice.

                              Yeah I'm not really into stacks or at least not all the way up the calf, I just want a few breaks kind of bunched up around the ankle and definitely having the hem go all the way down to sit on the ledge of the boots, which I guess you'll only really get with a straight leg or boot cut, something with at least maybe an 8.75" opening, but I'm still leaning lol.

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                              • mikebarhootM
                                mikebarhoot
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                                oh no. plenty of boot pics. just the 1 with 777s. 😀

                                & thanks @twinning

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                                • AppfaffA
                                  Appfaff
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                                  @twinning FWIW, I think the standard inseam on IH jeans is the ideal length for stacks - see @goosehd 's pick in his UHR denim. You are entirely correct, once the denim settles, the "stacks" are about a 3, maybe 4, inch section of fabric.

                                  The history behind stacks does in-fact date back to the Cowboys, when they sat on a saddle, and their feet were in stirrups, they wanted their jeans or duck trousers to provide an extra layer of protection around brush, and having an extended inseam was the result, covering the shaft and the instep of their boots. Ironically, the same inseam requirement for riding a motocycle and not having the wind go up your trousers haha. At some point, cowboys would also order their jeans extra long to be able to cuff the bottom part, and be able to carry things like their cigarettes in the cuff, which gave them easy access to a smoke while on the trail.

                                  Christophe from Mister Freedom took this little nugget back in 2008 or so, and added pockets to the bottom of a pair of the "rider's" jeans he created. essentially taking the folk lore of "the cuff" being used as a pocket and just added a legit pocket to the hem for the same reasons.

                                  This look then carried along the cowboy aesthetic over time, and when the jeans were heavily starched, also a real life tool, adding a layer of "armor" against brush and tree branches to keep the fabric from catching and fraying, but it also ensured the jeans "stayed fresh" even on multi-day or multi-weeks rides, the stacks would get additionally pronounced, and the area where the starch would rub off and the denim would "fold" would fade differently than the indigo heavy layer that was flat. This created the optical "stacking" look, in the same way that honeycombs ad whiskers are the exposed "stack" of denim that protrudes away from the body, and the indigo stays deeper on the pieces of fabric closer to the body.

                                  Wow, nerdiest thing I've ever written, but alas...

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