IH-9634Z - 21oz Non-Fade Denim Straight Cut Jeans - Superblack

[yen]

How tough is the zipper version compared with the 23 oz annies?

[Giles]

Much softer.  Difficult to be comparative, tough, but not as tough…...

[D97x7]

@barun:

what do you guys mean that they are brutal?  stiff?

Yes stiff, mine still stand on their own even after several machine washes.

[Seul]

I love mine… They're stiff but definitely NOT uncomfortable, at àll... Wearing them as we speak...

[Fincarelli]

That's a right and proper fit you got there Seul, looking really good.

[Seul]

Yeah I love 'm. More importantly: these FIT. 32x32 and that's what I'm buying in the future. No more extra length for me!.. Really adds to the fit, imo…

[injunjack]

Seul, you start to learn and probably even growing older, ahem. 

[Seul]

Yes Sir. 

[riffblaster general]

@Seul:

Yeah I love 'm. More importantly: these FIT. 32x32 and that's what I'm buying in the future. No more extra length for me!.. Really adds to the fit, imo…

yeah, mine have a bit of extra length because i got them hemmed to match my 634s,  but i dont need to cuff these because it looks kinda weird.  think i'm gonna get them hemmed again to get rid of the excess.

we're learning things together seul.

[Seul]

It's not weird to have a bit of extra length on the standard 634S (mine are 32.5") as you can cuff 'm, or stack 'm… But cuffing on these: no, they're not selvedge... Stacking perhaps?.. Forget about it... These are too stubborn...

So yeah: get 'm hemmed, Nate. You'll like 'm even more!.. 

[riffblaster general]

i'm with you.  sending these and 634s-b to blue in green this week.

[TinMan]

Do the 21oz zipper version stretch like 21oz 634s?  Does anyone own a size 34? what is the post wear h2p measurement?  thanks in advance.

[D97x7]

My 9634z size33s seem to have stretched out the same as my 634s size 33s both now measure around 35".

[Seul]

Dp7x7: so your waist is 35"?.. I'm guessing mine might stretch 0.5" as the waist is close to perfection…

[injunjack]

Seul, don't worry, the won't stretch anymore than it's necessary

[TinMan]

@D97x7:

My 9634z size33s seem to have stretched out the same as my 634s size 33s both now measure around 35".

Perfect for me! I stretched my size 34 634s to 36, should be able to do the same on this supa black.  Thanks for info D97.

[Seul]

Oh, I know!.. That's why I'm saying that they probs won't stretch more than 0.5", if at all. Def always wear a belt in my jeans so that helps (because even though they fit perfectly, they can still stretch from working in them).

[D97x7]

@Seul:

Dp7x7: so your waist is 35"?.. I'm guessing mine might stretch 0.5" as the waist is close to perfection…

Yes I guess it is, didn't realise they or I had stretched so much untill I put a tape across them.

[apba1166]

Tinman, my 9634Z size 34 still measure just a bit over 34, but it's early yet, only 15 wears or so.

[Lucifer]

So, I'm looking at this one or the Beatle Buster 21oz Selvage Denim Super Black Fades to Grey.

My favourite jeans so far when it comes to fit is a pair of nudies (yes, I know, but I live in Norway, bear with me), they measure as follows:

Waist: 37.7 inches
Front rise: 10.2 inches
Thigh: 13.4 inches
Rear rise: 16.5 inches
Hem: 9 inches

Should i go with a 36 pair and go for a 1.5 inch stretch in the inseam, or would it just be more comfy and less skin-tight (i don't like it too skintight) to just go with a pair of 38s?