IHDR-502-KHA - 12oz Cotton Whipcord Cargo Pants - Khaki

[mental_messiah]

I've been checking this one out and am conflicted.
I do have a pair of size 36 888 14oz bb that was snug at first but after a few wears it seems to have stretched to where it was comfortable. But I'm guessing size 36 in this fabric wouldn't work out for me as it seems to have no stretch.

There seems to be some conflicting info where there's supposed to be no stretch, but some others did experience it. Was hoping if there were any others who could share their experience. Thanks.

[yannis]

I have them both. The 502 14oz ib in size 36 and the whipcord I took tad 38. The 14oz denim stretched as usual about an inch in the waist and 0.5 inch in the thigh. The whipcord not so much. Specially the thigh.

[mental_messiah]

@yannis thanks, that’s what I was afraid of. Guess I’ll have to sit this one out then

[yannis]

What is your concern? You think if you take tag 38 it will be too big?

[mental_messiah]

I meant that tag 36 would be too small. I usually get 36 in IH jeans and need some stretch to accommodate - seems like that wouldn't happen with these cargo pants. I would get 38, but not available at the moment.

[Tago Mago]

@mental_messiah what is the waist measurement of the denim you own? Have you checked against the measurements of this?

[mental_messiah]

@Tago-Mago I did check against the 888-14bb - which is just at 36".
If it helps, I also have the 634-21od which is 36.5".

I'm just concerned given this fabric seems to be from a tighter weave vs denim, I may find it restrictive. Just hoping there is a bit of room to stretch in case. And when looking up division road's sizing, they recommend to go a size up from the regular denim tag size.

[yannis]

If the 88814ib is roomy on you, you should be fine with tag 36. If they are a bit tight I would steer away. The 502 tend to have a slightly more tapered fit that the 888's.

[mental_messiah]

yeah I wouldn't call them roomy on the waist, more like just right after stretching to 36”. sounds like it's not meant for me then
thanks for clarifying

[kantian]

Did anyone get confirmation on how much this material stretches?

I've always been a 32 in the 888, but the 33 in the 502 is closer to my best fitting jeans except for the waist. As long as the waist doesn't stretch an inch I'm leaning towards the 33.

Anyone from the IH crew have a recommendation?

If I get a 32 will they break-in to comfortability or is that the wrong way to size these?

[tody]

@kantian As a general rule of thumb, whipcord does not stretch. It may loosen up a little, but that is about it. Not comparable in any way to the stretch you get out of denim.

[mental_messiah]

@tody that's what I figured, there was just a prior post mentioning there was 1" of stretch which has caused some confusion for me

[kantian]

@mental_messiah Yeah, I went the 33. In my experience, the non-denim fabrics don't stretch much so I was probably overthinking it. I'm just cautious about deviating from my typical size even if my measurements overlap more with a different size.

[Matt]

I buy denim an inch smaller than I’d like them to be. I buy everything else at the size I want them to be.