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    • DmartD
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      Holy, 100 miles is quite a lot.

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      • goosehdG
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        @Nik I love it!! I’ve been binge watching the Barkley marathons and trying to convince myself that I could complete one loop. I know better 🙂 Keep us up to date with your training so that we can follow along.

        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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        • goosehdG
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          How do you guys handle high humidity and training? I did a 5km training run today with the temps around 74F, the humidity around 85-90%, and was dying. Appreciate any tips.

          "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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          • NikN
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            Drink lots, fuel more than when it isn’t hot, include more electrolytes in fuel esp. if you have salty sweat, and be patient because heat acclimation takes time. You can wrap ice in a bandana and wear it around your neck too, I haven’t tried it but pros do it.

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            • DmartD
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              Hydrate and electrolytes!

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              • goosehdG
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                My times were just about the same as always but the perceived effort was maxed, and my heart rate showed it. I don’t normally carry water on anything under 10km but I now will in that kind of humidity. Clothes were absolutely soaked when I got home.

                Appreciate the advice!

                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                • flannel slutF
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                  I'll go slightly off topic as is my specialty; high humidity training certainly brings on dehydration and exhaustion concerns but on the positive side, high humidity stretching is the bees knees.

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                  • goosehdG
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                    13km run this morning (second time completing it)…feeling pretty good as approx. 10km was non stop and my splits were more consistent than my first attempt. The last 3km’s were pretty tough though…

                    "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                    • NikN
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                      Well done. No shame in taking breaks. A run is still a run when it includes walking and stopping.

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                      • P
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                        @goosehd said in Runners:

                        @Nik I love it!! I’ve been binge watching the Barkley marathons

                        Ha! I may have mentioned it, but my neighbor is a 1x Barkley and 3x fun run finisher. Also held the AT thru hike record for a decade and still holds a few FKT, incl. White Mountain 4000 footers. A beast to say the least. Apart from the athletic side of things, the mental toughness is mind blowing. He can just keep going when miserable, hallucinating etc.

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                        • NikN
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                          Wow that is extremely impressive.

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                            @Nik Humbling community here in a town of 10,000. Countless Olympians, a current 2:10 marathoner, this years female winner of Ironman Europe and so on. While I am running intervals they jog past me in their zone 2. Perspective can be a bitch.

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                            • goosehdG
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                              Funny you mention zone 2…tried my first zone 2 training run today and it was such an odd experience. Ran for 70 minutes and felt like I could run another 70. The problem was staying in the zone and not bumping up to zone 3. The walking part was frustrating to get my heart rate back in zone as my heart rate recovered quickly, ran for another minute or two and I was back in zone 3, then brisk walking to get back to where I should be.

                              Pacing is definitely a bit weird and will take some time to get used to.

                              "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                              • DmartD
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                                @goosehd Trust me I have been there. It feels like running backwards and stopping to run and walk just to get the HR down fells like a looser. It gets better with time. Once you accept to put the ego aside its all good.

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                                • NikN
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                                  It is also worth experimenting with zones. 220 minus your age or percentages of max HR will give you lower zone values than finding your lactate threshold HR and working it out that way. The best is to have zones that feel right, and there is a lot of information out there about how each zone should feel.

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                                    @goosehd
                                    Agree with Nik.
                                    Lactate lab is best.

                                    Short of that, establish your max heart rate (warm up, run uphill at max sustainable speed for 10 minutes, rest 5, do it again and take max heart rate of second run --- many other ways available). Subtract your resting heart rate from max and divide range in 5 zones. Add them to resting heart rate.

                                    Remember that zone 2 is volume training. In order to see benefits (MAF test or just faster at same HR) takes at least 5 hours per week running in zone 2 imho. You can also use running at conversational pace, nose breathing etc. Don't be too dogmatic about it. When running uphill and you pop out of your zone it's fine as long as your HR quickly returns back to zone 2 after.

                                    If you got back from a 70min z2 run and felt you could do it again you are perfect. That is how it is supposed to feel.

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                                    • goosehdG
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                                      @Dmart @Nik @Perpetual_beta Thank you gentlemen for the advice and support!! I've read from a few different sources about calculating zone 2 and on more than one occasion, the zone 2 for the person was just about the same for the different ways calculated. All zone 2's were within a margin of error from using the standard 220 - Age formula. I also used the talk semi what comfortably and where I was just slightly breathing heavy and could breath through my nose.

                                      I'm going to try this method for a couple of months and see how it goes. If it works for me (and there is no reason it shouldn't), I may go to a lab and get properly tested based on availability and costs involved. Would be interesting to see my Lactate and VO2 Max numbers just to see how fit (or unfit) I am.

                                      Also, a big thank you for posting and being an inspiration. There are quite a few great discussions on this forum and this is one I feel is truly helping me for the years ahead.

                                      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                      • goosehdG
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                                        Long run today - with a twist. Picked a point on the map and used the measure distance feature to figure out how far it was. It said 9 km’s, which was going to be my half way point for today’s run.

                                        Ended up being about 11.5 km’s…total run today was 23.28 km’s. Made it, but the last 4 km’s were rough.

                                        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                        • DmartD
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                                          Thats quite a distance, good job. In my opinion there is no need to go too long on the long run unless you plan Ultras or marathon. I typically go for a max of 2 hours running.

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                                          • NikN
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                                            Nice work @goosehd sounds like your fitness is improving? How's it feeling?

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