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    • neph93N
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      @Giles:

      But I still can't get the oven spring that I would like….A work in progress.

      The bastard thing is that if I put the dough into a tin it would be forced to rise upwards and look awesome. But I’ve now become a slightly obsessed, macho «free-baker» and the idea of using tins makes my teeth itch and arse clench.

      And the real kicker is that I’ve had good oven spring before, I’ve just lost it somewhere in the tweaking.

      «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
      We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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        • LewisStonehouseL
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          This thread has inspired me to order some flour, fire the starter up and dust off the bannetons. Haven't baked for about two years so probably in for a couple of months of pancakes before figuring it out again, but looking forward to it!

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          • neph93N
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            @LewisStonehouse get in there lad. Looking forward to seeing how that goes…

            @dinobarnesberlin "Breaking Bread"… I like that a lot. Quite accurate. I do feel like a wannabe chemist who doesn't know his ass from his elbow at times. I'm Jessie from season 2 in other words...

            «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
            We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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            • dinobarnesberlinD
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              @neph93:

              @LewisStonehouse get in there lad. Looking forward to seeing how that goes…

              @dinobarnesberlin "Breaking Bread"… I like that a lot. Quite accurate. I do feel like a wannabe chemist who doesn't know his ass from his elbow at times. I'm Jessie from season 2 in other words...

              but in the end, Jessie wound up to be a pretty decent cook @neph93 .
              yours already look very tasty –-and that goes for all you guys baking in your kitchens.!

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              • steelworkerS
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                @neph93:

                @Giles:

                But I still can't get the oven spring that I would like….A work in progress.

                The bastard thing is that if I put the dough into a tin it would be forced to rise upwards and look awesome. But I’ve now become a slightly obsessed, macho «free-baker» and the idea of using tins makes my teeth itch and arse clench.

                And the real kicker is that I’ve had good oven spring before, I’ve just lost it somewhere in the tweaking.

                Whoa big fella, easy now… 😃 😉

                Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                Well, I have others.

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                • neph93N
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                  @steelworker:

                  Whoa big fella, easy now… 😃 😉

                  Don’t worry, Ed, it says tweaking, not twerking.

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                  We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                  • Stuart.TS
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                    Today I followed a Sarah Owens (author of 'Sourdough - recipes for rustic fermented bread' '). She has a great 30 min video on YouTube.

                    Recipe:
                    60g starter
                    300g water
                    310g white bread fl
                    80g wholewheat stoneground fl
                    8g salt

                    30 mins autolyse
                    3 hr bulk ferment, folding every 30 mins

                    All I was left with is the same sticky, wet, unshapeable mess that I had with a different recipe last week.

                    My starter doubles in size after feeding, passes the float test, and smells great…this is the result. I can only put the issue now down to ambient temperature or type of flour.

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                    • ChapC
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                      That baking with your own Levain is of course a cool hipster thing and sometimes I really had nice results mostly with wholemeal bread…. but I am with Giles and I don’t have the time and patience to cultivate the Levain permanently... I switched to prefermented doughs... more predictable results

                      Another 80% Biga + Giles 8 Grain

                      God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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                      • GilesG
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                        Ran out of time this weekend.  So I am making a Saturday loaf.  80% 8 grain and 20% dark rye.  The preferments taste so much better than a one-day bake, but I am hoping my mix of flours will help….

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        • neph93N
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                          So a bit of success at last. Today's bake had a four hour bulk ferment and a seven hour fridge proof. A possibly meaningful factor was that my starter was made 11 hours before it went into the flour and was fermented in my warm cupboard. The routine for the last few bakes has been to make it late the night before and use it 18 hours later. It sat on the kitchen bench though where it is cooler. I suspect it was more burnt out than it should have been.

                          The results in terms of crumb and taste were the same, the volume increase during the fridge proof were limited, but the oven spring and firmness of the dough between the fridge and the oven were much, much better. The final loaves were higher and ended in a better shape.

                          At this point it's about aesthetics, but I'm pleased to have learnt a little more about the practical dynamics involved.





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                          We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                            Nailed @neph93 congrats they look, and I’m sure taste, awesome!

                            Been so busy recently I’m yet to wander into the loaf lifestyle. When I enter, if I ever get close to this fella, I would be so chuffed.

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                              Looks great @neph93 ^^

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                              • DstaufferD
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                                Garlic cheese loaf today…

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                                • neph93N
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                                  @ROman  @GC Thanks gents. Now that I’ve got this under control I will be moving on to attempting to imitate @Giles 80% Biga soon.

                                  @Dstauffer  that looks very tasty indeed.

                                  «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                  We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                  • ChapC
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                                    With temperatures up to 25C it‘s getting a bit tricky to get the correct times for fermentation and proofing…
                                    That Forkish Overnight Country Blond was a bit underproofed

                                    God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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                                    • steelworkerS
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                                      I really wish you s.o.b.'s would stop posting photos of stuff I'm too lazy to bake myself.

                                      Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                                      Well, I have others.

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                                        First biga. Starting to smell the alcohol when I remove the lid. A couple hours to go!

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                                        • neph93N
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                                          Looking forward to seeing the results @Chad
                                          Getting my Biga on soon. Picked up an 8 quart baking bowl with a lid today. Should be big enough, no? Forkish recommends 6 quarts….

                                          «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                          We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                            @neph93 I'd say that's more than enough. I couldn't tell you what size this is. I just use this bowl to mix my pre-ferments before adding to the final dough.

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