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    • BloodnThunderB
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      @Stuart.T:

      There is not one, uniform, global response to this. There are so many variables for each region, let alone country.

      To my knowledge the most, and really only, effective measure we have against the spread is quarantine and shelter in place mandates.  Local, regional, state, and national governments determine when these limitations are put into law.  A government that is late to respond for one reason or another may try to blame a lack of supply or limit to testing as cause for the spread.  But, their delay in action when there is a mountain of evidence in front them proving what must be done cannot be ignored.

      IG: Shadesofindig0

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      • JDelageJ
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        I certainly don't think it's fair to blame a government for a lack of supplies. Those lack of stockpiles are the consequences of multiple governments. You can't expect prez XYZ to come into power and immediately ask about the strategic mask reserve.

        On the other hand, we can hold our governments responsible for being late in responding, lying to their citizens, or sending mixed messages.

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        • Stuart.TS
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          https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

          https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/685d0ace521648f8a5beeeee1b9125cd

          Here is some perspective

          I make this observation without an underlying agenda, it is purely to provide an objective source of information. You can literally watch the rate of growth in population and compare that against deaths in real time. I find it fascinating.

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          • Bfd70B
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            @JDelage:

            I certainly don't think it's fair to blame a government for a lack of supplies. Those lack of stockpiles are the consequences of multiple governments. You can't expect prez XYZ to come into power and immediately ask about the strategic mask reserve.

            On the other hand, we can hold our governments responsible for being late in responding, lying to their citizens, or sending mixed messages.

            I do.

            When President Trump took office in 2017, the White House’s National Security Council Directorate for Global Health Security and Biodefense survived the transition intact. Its mission was the same as when I was asked to lead the office, established after the Ebola epidemic of 2014: to do everything possible within the vast powers and resources of the U.S. government to prepare for the next disease outbreak and prevent it from becoming an epidemic or pandemic.
            One year later, I was mystified when the White House dissolved the office, leaving the country less prepared for pandemics like covid-19.
            The U.S. government’s slow and inadequate response to the new coronavirus underscores the need for organized, accountable leadership to prepare for and respond to pandemic threats

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/nsc-pandemic-office-trump-closed/2020/03/13/a70de09c-6491-11ea-acca-80c22bbee96f_story.html

            I don’t expect one leader to know everything. I do expect them to be smart enough to set good priorities and hire the best help possible.

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            • gaseousclayG
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              Kind of a trip being out and about today. It’s nice out so of course there’s tons of people exercising, walking their dogs or just going for a stroll. Contrast that with a cloudy day and it’s this weird dystopian emptiness in the streets, kinda like the opening scene of 28 Days Later [emoji3446]

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              • gaseousclayG
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                https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/30/health/coronavirus-restrictions-fevers.html

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                WTB:
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                IHSH-19

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                • GraemeG
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                  • DougNgD
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                    I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                    • ChapC
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                      Damn that’s amazing @DougNg what a pity ww only habe one  😃

                      God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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                      • SeulS
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                        First strikes in supermarkets have broken out… I was waiting for that... Give us some financial bonuses so I can spend it all on beer and Iron Heart whilst I 'll be on paid vacation next week and don't lose one € cause our work is essential (it's essentially bullshit but hey)...

                        It's a selfish train of thoughts, but zero fucks are given...

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                        • GraemeG
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                          Similar to what @DougNg posted, but for more breeds.

                          I figured that one wolf's length would also work (they're pretty big), but it'd probably encourage greater social distancing. 😉

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                          • ChapC
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                            👍😂 with a wolf I would prefer a greater distance

                            God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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                            • DougNgD
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                              Holy fuck, that’s a pet?!?

                              Jooooodddyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!

                              I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                              • ChapC
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                                @DougNg:

                                Holy fuck, that’s a pet?!?

                                Jooooodddyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!

                                Should be no problem as you already have a gun license

                                God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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                                • DougNgD
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                                  I want one!!!

                                  My wife is used to these crazy requests. At one point I wanted a pig.

                                  Then a hippopotamus.

                                  She said no

                                  I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                                  • JDelageJ
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                                    As a side note, I'm listening to a French news report which discusses the number of phone subscriptions that have been cancelled in China in the last 5 months or so:

                                    • 21M cancelled cell phone subscriptions in the last 5 months,
                                          - 8M for China Mobile,
                                          - 5M for China Telecom
                                          - ~2M for China Unicom
                                    • 840,000 fixed lines cancelled since December

                                    (Officially: 3,305 deaths…)

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                                    • gaseousclayG
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                                      @DougNg:

                                      Holy fuck, that’s a pet?!?

                                      Jooooodddyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!

                                      Canis Lupus Occidentalis. Wouldn’t want that as a pet as I’m sure it would chew my face meat off as I slept

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                                      • DougNgD
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                                        @gaseousclay:

                                        @DougNg:

                                        Holy fuck, that’s a pet?!?

                                        Jooooodddyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!

                                        Canis Lupus Occidentalis. Wouldn’t want that as a pet as I’m sure it would chew my face meat off as I slept

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                                        At least a cat would wait until you’re already dead

                                        I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                                        • Stuart.TS
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                                          @JDelage it could be that some people just don't want to be tracked any more than they are already. I'd ditch mine if the UK Give used the C 19 tracking app

                                          https://learningenglish.voanews.com/a/china-using-mobile-apps-to-follow-spread-of-coronavirus/5295063.html

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                                          • DougNgD
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                                            Or… aliens abducted them

                                            I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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