Coronavirus (Covid-19) Discussion
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Has it been like that or is everyone in a panic because Boris just tested positive?
Either way it's a good idea. Especially for all those elderly people right in front of you.
It's been like that for about a week. I had not seen it before as I was in
hibernationself-isolationIn a lot of the supermarkets, they have a special hour for the elderly and key-workers, when no one else is allowed to shop.
Things on ration (that I noticed) today:
Tomato purée - 1 per person
Biscuits - 1 pack per person
Beer - 4 per person
Wine - 3 per person -
Always important to ration the essentials. We have a similar setup here in Seattle. There are a few select hours for anyone over 60 only.
Beer and wine can still be bought in bulk but if you don't get into the market within 20 minutes of opening good luck getting a single roll of toilet paper.
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In Maryland they’re putting limits on tp, hand sanitizer, bottled water and diapers.
I still don’t get the toilet paper thing, and it’s unlikely tap water is going to stop running. That system is almost entirely running autonomously. One would be better off buying brita filters but wtf do I know…
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Grocery shopping is taking a lot longer now.
In France, ordering online and having groceries delivered was in its infancy. I've been using that a lot because we don't have a car. The systems were not called for the current situation, and it's now nearly impossible to order anything.
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We have grocery delivery in the form of Instacart, but I found out from my coworker that all the slots for delivery in her area have been booked solid for the next two weeks.
On one side of my neighborhood we have spaced out row homes (five row homes, then a big gap, five more, etc) and the other side is rural area, so we're only two days out from grocery delivery.
The pain in the ass with grocery delivery is you make a list of things you need, and you don't find out you can't get them until the shopping is already in process. You are still stuck either going out yourself for one or two items, making a second delivery appt, or making do without it. -
So a bunch of my coworkers have put together a group grocery list so we can all get what we need. We live across a section of Maryland that's maybe 35 miles apart. Because we live in different areas and go to the store at different times, there are restocks of different items. When we can get something for someone else, we let them know and we're going to get together on the weekend when the markets are crowded and exchange.
I'm able to get most of the meats and fresh vegetables at an Asian market not far from me but I can't get prepackaged foods.
One of my coworkers is able to get dog supplies for me.
One of my coworkers got me a couple cans of Spam (don't judge me).Someone got me a couple bottles of Drano (I don't know why the Drano is all gone, but I have a clog in the sink that I shave in that won't go away)
This is actually working out pretty well. I think we all got what we needed. I don't actually need anything as my fridge and freezer are fully stocked, but I'm happy to help out my friends and there are a couple of odds and ends that are "nice to haves."Just sharing a strategy to those that are finding themselves surrounded by bare shelves.
Just a friendly question Doug but have you cleaned the trap in your sink? And have you removed the drain plug? I assume you have a plug that goes up and down with a rod that sits behind the water spout? Very often there is buildup and things stuck there that draino doesn’t remove. I manage a few properties and I often avoid the plumber with these issues
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Well, for all you buttholes that thought I’m a weirdo for prepping, this is my menu at my house for the next week:
Smoked St. Louis style ribs
Smoked duck
Korean bbq
Picanha
Beef stew
Smoked short ribsOne day we’ll get take out from our favorite burger place
I have enough stocked for four weeks minimum
Nyah Nyah!
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I went to a small local supermarket this morning at 8.30 after the school run. I could have got priority access over the elderly people queuing in front of me. The guy at the door offered for me to jump the que. I thanked him but said not a fucking chance.
There was plenty for everyone and everything was fully stocked.
We have always used an organic fruit and veg box delivery scheme. They have given priority delivery to existing customers, so we are OK for the time being.
Advice for people in the UK. Service stations that have M&S food shops are fully stocked and deserted. I pop in to one on my way back from work yesterday at 8pm and there was me and the cashier. I felt weird.
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When things were really getting ridiculous I’d thought about the BP / M&S option. If that proved fruitless (Ithangyou) my Plan C was to jump on a motorway and try a service station.
It’s all much more civilised now, I’m happy to report.
Twats.
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My mom lives in northern Japan and she told me not all schools are closed and that even restaurants are open. She said that it’s up to each prefecture to decide on closures, kinda like how each state decides here in the US. She went on a bit of a rant about the young people in Japan not taking the pandemic seriously.
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Has it been like that or is everyone in a panic because Boris just tested positive?
Either way it's a good idea. Especially for all those elderly people right in front of you.
It's been like that for about a week. I had not seen it before as I was in
hibernationself-isolationIn a lot of the supermarkets, they have a special hour for the elderly and key-workers, when no one else is allowed to shop.
Things on ration (that I noticed) today:
Tomato purée - 1 per person
Biscuits - 1 pack per person
Beer - 4 per person
Wine - 3 per personBiscuits, beer, and wine, I get. Tomato puree though-
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My mom lives in northern Japan and she told me not all schools are closed and that even restaurants are open. She said that it’s up to each prefecture to decide on closures, kinda like how each state decides here in the US. She went on a bit of a rant about the young people in Japan not taking the pandemic seriously.
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yeah but i feel like japan will be alright through all this. the people there have a much better civic mindedness than us. the citizens there tend to play their personal role in combatting this pandemic. i've been reading a lot of articles about how taiwan has managed to circumvent using lockdowns in it's measures and a lot of it comes down to the people there playing their part in the measures they take.
Biscuits, beer, and wine, I get. Tomato puree though-
tomato puree is used often in stews. i suppose that's why maybe..
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Some shops are strictly 1 of each item, some are strictly 2.i wanted to buy a 4 pint bottle of milk for us, and a 2 pint for my parents in the CO OP but was told I could only buy 1.i said I understood, and asked how I could then also buy supplies for my elderly parents. I was told I could leave the store and the return in a while to buy more..
Seriously, so a) I could buy a whole 2nd round of groceries, which could basically be for me and
spend even more time than is necessary transmitting the virus to more shoppers (if I was a carrier, which as far as I know, I'm not).Matt Hancock, the Health Secretary has also tested positive… At this rate the whole cabinet will drop, and Corbyn will be Prime minister after all
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With Japan, the truth is that we have no idea. The best indicators I have seen are those that trace the daily COVID deaths, starting all the curves at the same point (generally at the day the country hit 10 deaths). Unfortunately they are imperfect because many countries do not report the full COVID death number (e.g., France only counts deaths at hospitals). They are also a lagging indicator. It's very easy for countries to underreport the number of cases, willingly or not.
Japan has some things going for it, like the widespread use of masks, the fact that most people don't routinely shake hands, etc. It also has elements going against it like the high population density. In the past, the governments and media were rather less transparent than in the US; I'm not sure if it's still the case.
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With Japan, the truth is that we have no idea. The best indicators I have seen are those that trace the daily COVID deaths, starting all the curves at the same point (generally at the day the country hit 10 deaths). Unfortunately they are imperfect because many countries do not report the full COVID death number (e.g., France only counts deaths at hospitals). They are also a lagging indicator. It's very easy for countries to underreport the number of cases, willingly or not.
Japan has some things going for it, like the widespread use of masks, the fact that most people don't routinely shake hands, etc. It also has elements going against it like the high population density. In the past, the governments and media were rather less transparent than in the US; I'm not sure if it's still the case.
from all the new measures like distancing and stringent hygienic routines (which don't get me wrong is also important), the biggest takeaway i have so far on this ongoing issue by seeing how most countries deal with this is that contact tracing is the key and it is (or was) the most important issue on keeping cases low and stoping spread.
it worries me a lot when countries admit that they cannot link a case back to its source or that they have no idea where certain case numbers have been or be in contact with. because in that situation, there could be mega clusters that they have no idea about.
it might be easy to say this is perfect for smaller countries like singpaore and taiwan and it also might be a whole different ball game for a bigger one. sad to say, most didn't realise or implement it early enough before things spiral out of control.
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@louisbosco I largely agree with you. I believe that the largest failing of Western democracies so far has been the lack of fast testing.
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Booze.
