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Giles and Paula Add a Room Onto the Side of The House

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    Chris
    Raw and Unwashed
    Joined: 28 Jun 2010

    Looks like solid progress there, Giles.  When's the projected end?

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      Giles
      IHUK Crew
      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

      I don't do projections - IWHWIH…... 😉

      I have some logistical challenges ahead of me, all based around trade availability..

      Brickwork can't be completed until gauged arches are made, and I could not order them until the actual door and window sizings were known

      Steels should go in tomorrow (unless I need a crane)

      Once steels are in, I need to get joists and inner roof made (can start that without external walls being complete).  Meeting a man about that today

      I need to render the external south wall, no idea who I will get to do that.

      Once outer walls are complete, I can get outer roof laid

      Then I need doors and windows made (did not know what size to make until brickwork started), meeting a man about them later today

      Once it's weatherproof, I can knock whole through to existing house (18" solid brick wall) - Paula is looking forward to the dust.

      Then plumbing, electrics, laying floor, painting, installing kitchen etc etc etc....

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        louisbosco
        啓蒙家
        Joined: 21 Feb 2013

        wow. it's coming along well. i'm looking forward to seeing this. or rather, what's been completed by then..

        "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

        • Harvey Specter
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          Steffen
          Joined: 26 Jul 2017

          What kind of Blocks are those on the Inside ?

          Didn´t you want to give the whole searching for People and organizing Stuff to an Architect or is that not how its done in the UK ?

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            Giles
            IHUK Crew
            Joined: 22 Sept 2009

            The blocks are 100mm thick high-density concrete.

            I could have let the architect run the job, then it would have cost me 15% of the total price to have a prick that does not really know what I want, trying to up the contract price so I would have to pay more….

            And.  He would have wanted to give the job to a "mate", who would have been busy, so could have taken forever.

            And.  I like finding the best at what they do, myself.

            And. I love understanding exactly what is going on.

            And. I'm a control freak.

            And. I actually like having only myself to blame for any fuck ups....

            All sad, but true.

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              Steffen
              Joined: 26 Jul 2017

              Ah Concrete, makes Sense, I to date never did one Project with those Blocks, due to our Strict Environemnt Protection Rules they are basicly gone from that Market, in Germany this would be probably a 36 cm high hole Brick as a Core or a 24cm one with additional Rockwool.

              😃 😃 😃 You seem to have quite a bad meaning of my Collegues, we or lets say I take pride in helping People to exactly get what they want and through tendering even much cheaper then if they would ask the Contractors themselfs. The Other Arguements are of course Valuable but a good Architect should know the best People of every Craft in their Area but of course that is not the Case most of the time. In the End building is a bit different on the other Side of the Pond, where quite Crazy here when it comes to Rules and Regulations to a Point where no Customers gets them all the way so they have to ask us for help to get through without Major problems with the authority.

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                Giles
                IHUK Crew
                Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                My walls are 100mm brick, 40mm void, 60mm Cellotex, 100mm block- 300mm total.  The walls on the existing structure are 500mm solid brick.

                Part of the issue is that when we bought the house 12 years ago I managed the complete restoration.  It had no power, water, gas, floors and ceilings were missing etc etc. etc.  It had been empty for 23 years.

                So, I know this building better than anyone else alive.  The architect I used (mainly to help me get planning and listed building consent), was and is good.  But he just did not have enough of the back-story, I have been asked numerous questions by the tradesmen, that he would not have known (nor should he) the answer to, and would have to have asked me anyway.

                Got to go now, steels were due to arrive today, but they have been delayed, so I'm off to pick up the smallest of them for the brickies, they really need it now….

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  Giles
                  IHUK Crew
                  Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                  And delivered….

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                    neph93
                    見習いボス
                    Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                    Land Rover to the rescue.

                    «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                    We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

                    • Dame Vera Lynn
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                      Steffen
                      Joined: 26 Jul 2017

                      Great Story, so this is your House, really cool, I mainly do old Buildings because of that, the Soul and the Patina always get me. I planned and orderd a full Oak Door for a Building from 1600 this week, can´t wait to see it in Flesh.

                      That is quite a Chunk of Steel, good Job getting it in and out there without hurting yourself and/or trashing the car.

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                        Giles
                        IHUK Crew
                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                        Post a pic of the door somewhere….The 3 big steels arrive today...

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          Giles
                          IHUK Crew
                          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                          And the large ones have just arrived…

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            Giles
                            IHUK Crew
                            Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                            Drawings for the gauged arches…Call me sad, but these are things of beauty.....

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              neph93
                              見習いボス
                              Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                              No buts about it. They are beautiful and you are sad [emoji6]

                              «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                              We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

                              • Dame Vera Lynn
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                                Graeme
                                啓蒙家
                                Joined: 30 Mar 2012

                                The gauged arches look complicated. Are the bricks cut to size and shape onsite, or do they arrive as a kit?

                                I think that they'll be great when they're done.

                                I agree with @Giles that @Steffen's door sounds great. I want to see pictures when it's done.

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                                  Giles
                                  IHUK Crew
                                  Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                  In the "old" days, they would have been cut and rubbed to shape on site, but this is a very difficult skill to find these days, and when you do, it comes at a cost….

                                  So, I'm having them cut and bonded to steel load-bearing lintels with 5mm joints off-site.  Well, actually 2 of the windows are bricked up to replicate the look of a Georgian window-tax bricked in window...

                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_tax

                                  I've just found out that the large arch will way about 700 kilos - yee gods.

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    organisys
                                    Raw and Unwashed
                                    Joined: 24 Mar 2015

                                    Those arches will look great when done. Shame there isn't the proliferation of skills anymore to do this the old way, but it doesn't surprise me, the house I just moved into is a new build, some of the brickwork is interesting! The builder admits that they struggle to find bricklayers; sometimes it's any old trade lending a hand !!

                                    As you mention, anyone who is skilled and experienced can command a premium and is booked up months or years in advance. I have a family friend who only does 'premium' and listed restorations or extensions now…

                                    Pride of Japan :-)

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                                      Giles
                                      IHUK Crew
                                      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                      Have a little bit of a hiatus for a while.  Can't go up any more until gauged arches arrive.  I can get the joists put in, but need some fecker to give me a price on Posi-Joists first….

                                      Belt and braces....

                                      And a larger Catnic on the inner skin….

                                      Wondering whay the blocks are smeared with muck?  A rain storm that could have raised Noah's bleeding Arc came through when the muck was still wet…..

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                        Graeme
                                        啓蒙家
                                        Joined: 30 Mar 2012

                                        @Giles:

                                        Belt and braces….

                                        "Overengineered is our starting point." 😉

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                                          Clint_D
                                          啓蒙家
                                          Joined: 5 Jun 2011

                                          Congrats @mclaincausey!

                                          Also, looks like you're making great progress @Giles!  I wish my project had nearly the momentum yours has had…

                                          ATX IH Hoarder

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