IH-777S-142 - 14oz Selvedge Denim Super Slim Tapered Jeans - Indigo
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Looking at getting this denim, seems like the perfect weight all year round.. I have 555-01 for colder seasons
I wanted to check, doesn’t seem to be a heap of difference between the 555 and 777 cut, slightly more room in the knee in the 777 and shorter rise. That’s it? If so these should be ideal
Any idea on when these will be restocked?
Cheers
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@JackSyd:
I wanted to check, doesn’t seem to be a heap of difference between the 555 and 777 cut, slightly more room in the knee in the 777 and shorter rise. That’s it?
Depends how you look at. They are both slim and tapered, so on the surface, not much difference. The similarities end there though.
The 777 rise is meaningfully lower, which amongst other things gives the top block a very different shape. It is more fitted than the 555. The taper is different too which is what gives the slightly bigger knee. On the 555 the taper starts at the top of the thigh and continues to the knee, but is less pronounced from knee to hem. The 777 has a gentler taper thigh to knee but a more pronounced taper from knee to hem.
Some people have commented that the 21oz is just as easy to wear in the warmth as the 14oz. Tightness of weave is as, or possibly more, important as weight when it comes to the way denim allows your body to cool. The 21oz has a much looser weave, allowing heat to escape and cool air to come in.
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The 777 rise is meaningfully lower, which amongst other things gives the top block a very different shape. It is more fitted than the 555. The taper is different too which is what gives the slightly bigger knee. On the 555 the taper starts at the top of the thigh and continues to the knee, but is less pronounced from knee to hem. The 777 has a gentler taper thigh to knee but a more pronounced taper from knee to hem.
this was a very helpful explanation. thank you
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this was a very helpful explanation. thank you
I'm happy it made sense. I think that if you check out the infographic at the bottom of this page, and consider my description it will make even more sense.
https://www.ironheart.co.uk/content/our-cuts-jeans
You can clearly see that the 777 tapers all the way down from thigh to hem, while the 555 tapers strongly at first before having a relatively straight drop from knee to hem. The 888 leg is more or less an enlarged, wider version of the 777 leg.
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Tightness of weave is as, or possibly more, important as weight when it comes to the way denim allows your body to cool. The 21oz has a much looser weave, allowing heat to escape and cool air to come in.
^This. I’ve tried a bunch of different IH denim. The lightest ones aren’t necessarily the coolest ones. The tightness of the weave is much more important.
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@neph93 that was incredibly helpful. Thanks for that.
Still really want this lighter weight denim, just unsure of cut at this point. I love the way the 555 doesn’t taper too much, I could possibly just size up to get a bit more space in the top block. Or try the 666, which is appealing too.
Decisions decisions.
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Had these for over a year & had only wore them to when I wanted to rock a “new” pair. I decided to make these my summer pair this year & have been having fun seeing them start to develop.
Gave them a real good hot wash a couple day’s ago & it was incredible how much indigo they shed in the bath.Just a crummy phone pic but hopefully I’ll have the start of something cool before Fall rolls around
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Little update shots - Might be time for Another wash!
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So I did give them another wash, as I feel I need to keep the denim as strong as I can, but man - these are my favorite all time jeans, hands down.
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Six months, one wash. First IH.
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@Richard - those fades are looking killer! the wear points are giving off some nice electric blue]
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@Richard - those fades are looking killer! the wear points are giving off some nice electric blue]
It’s nice to see, I’d admit. The jeans really tightened up after the first 30C wash, around the thigh and crotch, not so much the waist, but are softening up with three wearings. Not being remotely used to heavy denim (you guys probably think 14oz isn’t heavy….), I’m finding breaking in jeans seriously challenging. And have a pair of 555-03s in my closet. Gulp.
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It’s nice to see, I’d admit. The jeans really tightened up after the first 30C wash, around the thigh and crotch, not so much the waist, but are softening up with three wearings.
After a weeks wear they will be back where you were before the wash. Sounds like you sized perfectly.
They are looking very nice indeed. But you’re right, 14oz isn’t even medium weight in my book [emoji1]
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@Richard - I too find the 142 denim to snug up with a wash, but like @Neph93 said, it will stretch back and then some past initial measures. One funny thing I’ve noticed is the 142 does not have the natural “give” that the 21oz has… I almost feel like the 21oz indigo has some inherent stretch to it due to the weave, but the 142 is much less giving, Especially pre stretch.
Love the smooth face of the denim, and after 3 washes, mine not has almost no sheen to it - looks very old school - I dig it.
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Thanks fellas. Tbh, I found the 142 really, really stiff at first. Couldn’t cross my legs…...
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