IHM-20 - Overdyed 14oz Indigo Denim M65
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Just got the measures for the 2 L's in stock from the IH crew… another question for you guys regarding fit...
Approximately where is the narrowest waist measurement in the jacket? and from your guys' experience with the jacket, is it possible to give the jacket a little more give if you only use the snap buttons vs zipping up? Reason I ask is that the waist measurements on both L's (about 21.4) are on the cusp of being too small for me in the midsection while the rest of the measures look like they'd fit. Usually I'm more comfortable with a waist measurement around 22.5" in my shirts/jackets.
Also does the jacket stretch at all with wear given that it's made from denim?
Maybe I just need to lose some LB's!
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For those of you who sized down from your normal IH size, do you feel constricted at all in the jacket? I normally wear Xl in most of my IH shirts and occasionally can fit in to L in some work shirts. The measurements on the L look pretty close to the measures I’d target in a button down (except those long sleeves)… anyway, if you guys who have owned this for a while could advise I’d appreciate it!
I was basically in the same situation as you with this jacket so I did what any logical, sane, financially responsible person would do and I bought two of them…one in L and one in XL. Yes I am keeping both and yes both of them fit.
I'm an XL in almost all IH shirts across the board, XXL in IH truckers and have an XL in the IHJ-61 Whipcord work jacket. The IHJ-61 fits me great in XL but does get constricting when I lift my arms to reach above my head...think reaching to get something out of the top cupboard. Also a bit constricting when zipped up and I'm fully outstretching my arms....think bending over to pick something up. None of this bothers me enough to not wear it though as I love the damn thing. Works perfect just over a T and I can even wear it over an IH thermal. This is exactly how the sized down L M-65 fits me but possibly even a bit tighter in the arms. Definitely only a T under the L but it still works. I use the expression fits like a glove...perfect way to describe it. For some having a jacket that fits like a glove is a bad thing and too small but this still works for me. It's almost too good of a fit if that makes sense...tailored. That being said it has stretched out a bit with wear which is a good thing.
So since I love the damn thing so much I also bought an XL and in all honesty it probably fits me the way it should especially considering the M-65 is supposed to have a roomier fit. More room but still fits great and not constricting at all with any movement. If I had to do it all over again....I'd probably go with the XL but again...both sizes work for me.
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Agree with @manufc10. Sizing down will be tighter and more fitted and going with your usual size will allow for layering. In my case, I sized for length. Had I gone with a large the sleeves and body would've likely been too long on me and I didn't want to look like I was wearing an oversized jacket. The sleeve and body length in a medium are perfect for my height.
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For those of you who sized down from your normal IH size, do you feel constricted at all in the jacket? I normally wear Xl in most of my IH shirts and occasionally can fit in to L in some work shirts. The measurements on the L look pretty close to the measures I’d target in a button down (except those long sleeves)… anyway, if you guys who have owned this for a while could advise I’d appreciate it!
I was basically in the same situation as you with this jacket so I did what any logical, sane, financially responsible person would do and I bought two of them…one in L and one in XL. Yes I am keeping both and yes both of them fit.
I'm an XL in almost all IH shirts across the board, XXL in IH truckers and have an XL in the IHJ-61 Whipcord work jacket. The IHJ-61 fits me great in XL but does get constricting when I lift my arms to reach above my head...think reaching to get something out of the top cupboard. Also a bit constricting when zipped up and I'm fully outstretching my arms....think bending over to pick something up. None of this bothers me enough to not wear it though as I love the damn thing. Works perfect just over a T and I can even wear it over an IH thermal. This is exactly how the sized down L M-65 fits me but possibly even a bit tighter in the arms. Definitely only a T under the L but it still works. I use the expression fits like a glove...perfect way to describe it. For some having a jacket that fits like a glove is a bad thing and too small but this still works for me. It's almost too good of a fit if that makes sense...tailored. That being said it has stretched out a bit with wear which is a good thing.
So since I love the damn thing so much I also bought an XL and in all honesty it probably fits me the way it should especially considering the M-65 is supposed to have a roomier fit. More room but still fits great and not constricting at all with any movement. If I had to do it all over again....I'd probably go with the XL but again...both sizes work for me.
Thank you very much! Sounds like we're pretty close in size… I had the IHJ-61 and loved the design and feel of the jacket but like you when I lifted my arms up over my head the jacket was constricting. It wasn't horrible but an annoyance that I knew would stop me from wearing it as much. As such, even though I loved the jacket I ended up selling it... I guess I just like my jackets to be a little roomier for freedom of movement...
Anyway, it sounds like the IHM-20 in size L will give me the same problems I had with the IHJ-61 in XL which is too bad. Can't seem to find the IHM-20 in XL anywhere so I guess I'll have to pass this time!
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No problem!
You might have the same problems with a L IHM-20 but one thing to keep in mind is that it has the shoulder pleats which does give you some slack with your range of motion. The main "issue" (if you can call it that) I have with my Large is actually the fact that the armholes seemed to placed pretty high on this jacket and the sleeves are trim which probably isn't helped by the lining. So this means it is tight around my armpits/shoulders and biceps. I don't have massive guns by any means but I'm fit and I am no stranger to the gym and curls. So if your arms are on the skinnier side it might not be an issue.
If I were you I would try one of the Larges from IHUK. You can always send it back if it doesn't work out. I'm sure you wouldn't have any problem selling it either if you wanted to do that.
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Thanks for the info regarding the sleeve height/etc… I didn't have any issues with the IHJ-61 in the sleeves... my arms are somewhat skinny... Issue with the IHJ-61 was only when I raised my arms up which leads me to believe it was just an issue with the lining and/or placement of the sleeves on the jacket.
One of the other measurements that kind of concerned me is the waist measurement... at about 21.4" waist that's the minimum I'd go in most my IH shirts... with this being a jacket I'm thinking it might just be too small in the waist for me. Then again I could stand to lose some weight!
And you might be right that the easiest thing for me to do would probably just get it from IH UK and return it if it doesn't fit right... on the other hand, if you ever decide to let go of your XL let me know
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Thanks for the info regarding the sleeve height/etc… I didn't have any issues with the IHJ-61 in the sleeves... my arms are somewhat skinny... Issue with the IHJ-61 was only when I raised my arms up which leads me to believe it was just an issue with the lining and/or placement of the sleeves on the jacket.
One of the other measurements that kind of concerned me is the waist measurement... at about 21.4" waist that's the minimum I'd go in most my IH shirts... with this being a jacket I'm thinking it might just be too small in the waist for me. Then again I could stand to lose some weight!
And you might be right that the easiest thing for me to do would probably just get it from IH UK and return it if it doesn't fit right... on the other hand, if you ever decide to let go of your XL let me know
Will do.
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No problem!
You might have the same problems with a L IHM-20 but one thing to keep in mind is that it has the shoulder pleats which does give you some slack with your range of motion. The main "issue" (if you can call it that) I have with my Large is actually the fact that the armholes seemed to placed pretty high on this jacket and the sleeves are trim which probably isn't helped by the lining. So this means it is tight around my armpits/shoulders and biceps. I don't have massive guns by any means but I'm fit and I am no stranger to the gym and curls. So if your arms are on the skinnier side it might not be an issue.
If I were you I would try one of the Larges from IHUK. You can always send it back if it doesn't work out. I'm sure you wouldn't have any problem selling it either if you wanted to do that.
I have the same issue with the armholes. I wore the ihm-20 one day with a tee and thermal and felt some chafing in my right armpit. But it was just the one time and haven't had chafing since
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Wearing this with a 3sixteen henley underneath in mid 30 temps. Supposed to get to 60 come Monday, so I'm trying to squeeze in a couple more wears before it goes back in the closet. Man I love this sumb*tch
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The 'S' size is sold out
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There's still one S available from SE from what I just saw…
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interested in this jacket.
the only size left, that colud possibly be Ok for me, is L, but I am still not sure about the sizing…in the description it says that @Giles wears "L".
I have a similar IH product - Ultra-Heavy Flannel CPO shirt IHSH-157 in size XL and it fits me perfectly.
this makes me think that I might need this M65 Jacket in size XL…But in the description of the shirt it was mentioned that Giles wears "XL". So, if Giles wears shirt in XL and jacket in L, the L size could still be Ok for me.
@Giles Could you please tell me how L size fits you? do you have any freedom of movement and doest it have tight fit on your body?
(according to the weight/height you are taller than me, but I am more fatty ::) like 6'/200 lbs). -
I am definitely considering doing another production run. BUT we have a lot of M65's in the pipe for this Fall/Winter and I am not sure we should re-release this one yet…..
Hi Giles, are there any further developments/news/hints ?
I'd go for the IHM-20 XL, but does seem to be not available atm…
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XL is not available and there are no plans to do a re-run I am afraid….
Thanks for your answer… looking forward to the other M-65 type jackets...
