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    Bread - What are you baking today…..

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    • dinobarnesberlinD
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      Those look substantial neph.
      Fish, meat and pickled fruit and veggies–-sounds great.

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      • neph93N
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        Iron Heart gifts were thin on the ground this year (apparently I have enough), but I did get this:

        Seeing as I don’t use Dutch ovens, it should come in useful.

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        • GilesG
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          What's that?  A metal pizza stone?

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          • neph93N
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            @Giles:

            What's that?  A metal pizza stone?

            A baking steel. Apparently more effective than a baking stone in a home oven. You can use it for pizza, bread, naan or whatever.

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            We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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            • neph93N
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              Just ordered a peal to go with it.

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              • GilesG
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                Good luck with your new toys.  I use a pizza stone under my Dutch oven.  I'm sure it's overkill, but the stone stays in the oven most of the time….I work on the basis that whenever I put something cold in the oven, it'll reduce the oven temp, so having a socking great stone in there that is up to oven temp, reduces the time for the oven to get back up to dialled in temp....

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                • neph93N
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                  Not using my new toy yet as it has to be seasoned… but I have read a little about pre-shaping over the holiday and put it to use today.

                  This was half of one dough (white levain) that was pre-shaped and bench rested for about 20 min before the final shape and banneton proofing. When the final shape was done I noticed a thicker more robust «skin» to the shaped dough, and a rounder, but not tighter boule.

                  That seemed to carry over to the bake. Despite dough spreading on the oven tray it got a lot of spring and had pleasantly rounded sides. A couple of cm higher than me regular bakes, I would say.

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                  • GilesG
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                    So all you did was pre-shape and left to rest for 20 mins? Then what reshape before putting in the Banneton?

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                    • neph93N
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                      Utilised the same technique on the country brown. I struggle not to overdo it, and I’m not as smooth or efficient enough yet. The result was a thicker skin which I think may have been responsible for the massive splits that formed during oven spring.


                      May be worth proofing these seam side up and scoring, in the future.

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                      We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                      • GilesG
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                        80% Biga, 20% eight-grain….

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        • neph93N
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                          Lively!

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                          • GilesG
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                            Yes, I was a little heavy-handed with the yeast in the Biga…

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • neph93N
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                              @Giles:

                              So all you did was pre-shape and left to rest for 20 mins? Then what reshape before putting in the Banneton?

                              Do'h… I missed this, apologies. But yes, pretty much. The idea as I understand it is that you do a "soft" shaping into a boule, regardless of what you eventually intend. Don't get it too tight, but just get just enough movement and friction to get that skin formed so that it holds. Then you let it sit for 20min, seam side down. When that is done, you can do a final shape, either re-enforcing the boule or doing the folded baton routine. The result is a thicker skin, that  is less likely to split and gives more support during the bake.

                              My experience was that it works better for boules than for batons. Probably because you ruin a little of the structure conveyed by the preshape when folding the baton form.

                              «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
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                              • neph93N
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                                @Giles:

                                Yes, I was a little heavy-handed with the yeast in the Biga…

                                Looks like that is no bad thing…

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                                We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                • GilesG
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                                  Thanks Reuben x 2

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                                  • ChapC
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                                    80% Biga with the @neph93 pre-shaping procedure

                                    God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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                                    • neph93N
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                                      Haha… it isn’t mine I promise you. There are hundreds of YT videos on it [emoji6] Did you notice any appreciable difference? The cross-section of yours is beautiful btw.

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                                      We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                      • ChapC
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                                        @neph93:

                                        Haha… it isn’t mine I promise you. There are hundreds of YT videos on it [emoji6] Did you notice any appreciable difference? The cross-section of yours is beautiful btw.

                                        To be honest no significant difference  😉 but I think it might make sence with a very soft dough being difficult to get a good shaping. I used Pizza flour yesterday as the other half of the dough will become Pizza today, doughs with that flour are easy to shape and have a nice tension.

                                        God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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                                        • neph93N
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                                          @Chap:

                                          @neph93:

                                          Haha… it isn’t mine I promise you. There are hundreds of YT videos on it [emoji6] Did you notice any appreciable difference? The cross-section of yours is beautiful btw.

                                          To be honest no significant difference  😉 but I think it might make sence with a very soft dough being difficult to get a good shaping. I used Pizza flour yesterday as the other half of the dough will become Pizza today, doughs with that flour are easy to shape and have a nice tension.

                                          Interesting, as I noticed that my 100% milled white wheat dough, which is quite sloppy, benefitted more than my country brown (about 60/40 wholewheat). The whole wheat is much more robust.

                                          «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                          We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                          • ChapC
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                                            @neph93:

                                            @Chap:

                                            @neph93:

                                            Haha… it isn’t mine I promise you. There are hundreds of YT videos on it [emoji6] Did you notice any appreciable difference? The cross-section of yours is beautiful btw.

                                            To be honest no significant difference  😉 but I think it might make sence with a very soft dough being difficult to get a good shaping. I used Pizza flour yesterday as the other half of the dough will become Pizza today, doughs with that flour are easy to shape and have a nice tension.

                                            Interesting, as I noticed that my 100% milled white wheat dough, which is quite sloppy, benefitted more than my country brown (about 60/40 wholewheat). The whole wheat is much more robust.

                                            😃 humidity, temperature, etc. Different enviroment up there near the North Pole  :P. My winter dough is a lot different to work with then my summer dough was… ATM I have 14 hours Biga proofing time at 19 C.

                                            God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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