Watches - another OCD problem
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Have we discussed the discontinuation of the steel Nautilus here? The prices are going from crazy to stupid crazy…
There are rumours of a new Nautilus (6711?), some of which suggest it might have a titanium case, so it's probably a storm in a teacup. Who knows, maybe it'll even get a hacking movement in the update.
I'm amused when Thierry Stern, the head of Patek, says he has concerns about the company being "too commercial". With a turnover of around $1.5 billion, it's not as though it's a little atelier in a back street of Geneva!
Get the marketing team on it STAT! I guess in the grand scheme of things, their output isn't anywhere near the million watch giant that Rolex is but they aren't exactly A Lange either. I went into a Patek dealer in St Thomas and found 2 well mannered French sales staff in well tailored tropical suits and about maybe 15-20 watches on display. They were all pretty much high complications so I didn't even ask about pricing. No sports models, no base models, pretty much nothing of interest unless you took your yacht in to the harbor. The very nice gentlemen said if a sport watch or cheaper model comes in, they sell almost instantly. Is there the same amount of hype or lust that follows a steel Submariner? Maybe? Similarly, the AP dealer said the same about steel Royal Oaks and many of the AP dealers had caps on what you could buy, not that I saw anything even remotely obtainable for most people. Is there really that much demand or are the manufacturers trickling out watches to keep the demand high?
My wife and I were at the high end mall so she could spend some Christmas money and I wanted to look in LV to price purses for our anniversary this summer. There was an hour wait to get into the store and once they txted me that my time slot was open, the store was damn near picked clean. I've been in that store a few times before and they've always had a TON of stock around. Is it because of the pandemic? People having more money because they can't travel? Or the brands themselves?
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Patek's turnover was reportedly down by 20% last year, and their competitors are said to be in worse shape.
https://timeandtidewatches.com/patek-philippe-sales-2020-20-not-kind-big-deal/
So some of the shortage could be attributable to production taking a hit due to Covid-19.
The wealthy have largely dodged the pandemic recession. The jobs hit tended to be more at the minimum wage end of the scale (e.g. tourism, hospitality, retail, etc.), I reckon most asset prices are deeply into bubble territory, and credit is generally cheap. So, the 1% have more money to spend, and I suspect that some of it has gone on watches and fancy handbags.
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Another day in the office
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What is the consensus on H. Moser & Cie? Could someone point me to a place where I could gather more information on them? There seems to be very little on WatchUSeek…
Very high quality timepieces and great work w/r/t fumé dials. Most of what I've learned about them has been from HODINKEE however there's a nice sub forum on The Rolex Forum for Moser owners. I'd suggest popping in there and seeing what their take is on them for day-to-day wear. You eyeing any of them in particular? Perhaps the Streamliner? Happens to be a favorite of mine even if I've yet to do a hands-on with it.
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Yeah, the green fume Streamliner… ???
SO GOOD. Plus the movement is just wonderful with its finishing man…
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I love their sense of humor too, like their “Apple Watch” and their cheese watch. Way out of my price range but amazing stuff.
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SO GOOD. Plus the movement is just wonderful with its finishing man…
The movement on the (blue dial) streamliner chrono is out of this wold.
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What is the consensus on H. Moser & Cie? Could someone point me to a place where I could gather more information on them? There seems to be very little on WatchUSeek…
I had very unchristian thoughts about the Vantablack moon-phase they did a couple of years ago…
They are nicely made, have lovely dials. The finishing seems excellent. And they have a real sense of humour, whereas other brands tend to be rather straight laced.
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I do like the Apple Watch too…
It does a lot of things for a lot of people. I always appreciate the people who double wrist: Apple Watch on one wrist, mechanical watch on another.
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@henry_david I should have been more specific, sorry.
I meant this one…....
https://www.h-moser.com/product/swiss-alp-watch-5324-1205/
I've never seen the back of an Apple watch, but I bet it don't look like this.....
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@henry_david I should have been more specific, sorry.
I meant this one…....
https://www.h-moser.com/product/swiss-alp-watch-5324-1205/
I've never seen the back of an Apple watch, but I bet it don't look like this.....
Hahahah yes, yes that Apple Watch. I'm totally in love with that movement. INSANE.
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The last version of it is absolutely brilliant! It uses Apple's "spinning wheel" as the seconds combined with an amazingly black dial. If money were no option, it would be mine
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It's the one I linked to, no?
Yeah, that's the one. The first one (https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/h-moser-swiss-alp-watch-concept-black-minute-repeater-tourbillon) was a tourbillon minute repeater with the tourbillon exposed dial-side and no visible hand-set.
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It's the one I linked to, no?
It is, was at work w/ spotty net & couldnt open the link. Love that watch [emoji16]
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