Unpopular opinions
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I actually think if the GAH stuff had fewer logos/emblems it would be counterfeited less. Thinking about the items that seem most commonly counterfeited it is stuff like the gaudy Louis Vuitton purses peppered with LV logos.
I happen to like the volume of branding/emblems on GAH so I would never want them to decrease it just to potentially decrease counterfeits, but I think they may see less if they had less branding….. They may also see a decline in sales though.
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The market has shown this to be a supremely unpopular opinion, but I wish everything had less branding. I understand the value that it produces for the manufacturer, and for some consumers who are conscious of such things or who dig the aesthetic of a logo. I also understand that a lack of branding can look proletarian and unappealing to many. And aesthetically I can appreciate good logo design.
I especially hate branding that gets incorporated into patterns. I can handle a Burberry tartan, but the Louis Vuitton pattern with overt branding incorporated into it just screams desperation to me.
It would be remarkable if a brand could let their aesthetics alone represent their brand, but that is admittedly extremely difficult, and could become limiting and cliche.
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interesting.
counterfeit goods will always be rampant. it doesn't matter if the original item is worth $10 or $100. you'll find counterfeit items for all industries and goods..
LV's monogram has been in their history books for more than 100 years. back then, they weren't the hyped up company that they are today. bought and carried by many who think they are an instantly recognisable design. if someone looked at a vintage LV trunk, would you think any different of a item produced today bearing the same monogram? would it still shout desperation?
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Well next time you're in London @mclaincausey make sure you stop by the Fendi Cafe in Harrods for your branding fix!
Edit: on closer look, seems it closes Friday
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Subtle…
I'm not sure the history matters, @louisbosco Perceptions change over time. I don't see an LV bag and think someone is paying tribute to an historic brand, I think they're saying "look at my Vuitton." But that's just me.
What was cool about LV back in those days was innovation–water resistant, stackable trunks, for example. But I suppose integrating overt branding into something that's supposed to be kind of a background (a pattern) is a form of innovation too.
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It would be remarkable if a brand could let their aesthetics alone represent their brand, but that is admittedly extremely difficult, and could become limiting and cliche.
It would be remarkable, and increasingly impossible in the market, as you suggest.
Back to the case in point, the technical quality of the design and execution of GAH’s products is fantastic, it is wedded to wild, original creativity, an irreverent sense of humour and a frankly bizarre combination of refined luxury and aggressive, loud branding. It is very much a part of their identity. That’s going to put some people off, understandably. But I’d suggest GAH wouldn’t be GAH without it.
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IMO part of GAH's cache is making things that are borderline ridiculous (not intended as an insult). Pendants, bracelets, and rings are things to be expected from a jeweler. But then they differentiate those with design and novel spring loaded latches and other tweaks (including overt branding by name or more subtle by rosette). The Belt Buddy is and has become recognized as a classic of design simplicity and effectiveness–I could see it in MoMA.
Then they go nuts with things like buttons, shoelace holders, and the like. I guess it can be viewed as "look at how rich I am, even throwaway items like my shirt buttons are Sterling" but somehow the frivolity and excessive opulence kind of works. More power to em and to y'all who own their products.
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Subtle…
I'm not sure the history matters, @louisbosco Perceptions change over time. I don't see an LV bag and think someone is paying tribute to an historic brand, I think they're saying "look at my Vuitton." But that's just me.
What was cool about LV back in those days was innovation–water resistant, stackable trunks, for example. But I suppose integrating overt branding into something that's supposed to be kind of a background (a pattern) is a form of innovation too.
no. of course not. i wouldn't think someone would carry an LV bag for that. i feel that the brand has been let down recently due to the amount of negativity caused by the hype surrounding. it's almost seems like maybe certain groups of people carrying it has destroyed what others may view (or used to view) as iconic..
Monogram patterns were started with a few french trunk makers back in the day. LV being one of them along with Goyard and Moynat.
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I kinda like the over the top branding [emoji14]
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I share an unpopular opinion with Alan Moore.
I think entirely too much adult, male energy is misplaced in things intended for children. I wonder why you don't really see women clinging to Cabbage Patch Dolls or Barbie in their adult years?
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I share an unpopular opinion with Alan Moore.
I think entirely too much adult, male energy is misplaced in things intended for children. I wonder why you don't really see women clinging to Cabbage Patch Dolls or Barbie in their adult years?
If they made an awesome movie and awesome merch associated with the movie then I think we would see it. [emoji12]
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I do want to see "The Joker" but more because it promises to be an actual film as opposed to, as Scorsese put it, a "theme park."
To each his own, only shared the opinion because I think a lot of talent and energy gets wasted on these things.
Also applies to a lesser degree to the incessant reboots of other franchises. Some more new ideas would be great. Seeing that this is an unpopular opinion, I understand that's not likely.
Shared here previously, while I'm not cured of the addiction, I have a similar unpopular opinion about sports fanaticism being a similar net negative as it pertains to human focus. And in that case, people actually hate one another and get into physical altercations based on their team of choice. That's madness.
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Also applies to a lesser degree to the incessant reboots of other franchises. Some more new ideas would be great. Seeing that this is an unpopular opinion, I understand that's not likely.
Shared here previously, while I'm not cured of the addiction, I have a similar unpopular opinion about sports fanaticism being a similar net negative as it pertains to human focus. And in that case, people actually hate one another and get into physical altercations based on their team of choice. That's madness.
Some reboots work, most don't. I can take 'em or leave 'em. But I agree that original stories are much more preferable than rehashed material. It's for this reason that I love Chris Nolan's body of work. He's one of the few out there doing great films.
I don't get sports fanaticism either. I like baseball but I don't live and breathe it to the point where I want to punch someone for being a Yankees fan.
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I don't get sports fanaticism either. I like baseball but I don't live and breathe it to the point where I want to punch someone for being a Yankees fan.
If the Twins are your team, a high level of frustration with the almost inexplicable run of futility against the Yankees would be understandable, but getting into verbal and physical assault with their fans over the issue is taking things so far beyond reasonable.
I don't have a huge problem with friendly smack talk, though it makes more sense to hector the players than the fans.
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I don't get sports fanaticism either. I like baseball but I don't live and breathe it to the point where I want to punch someone for being a Yankees fan.
If the Twins are your team, a high level of frustration with the almost inexplicable run of futility against the Yankees would be understandable, but getting into verbal and physical assault with their fans over the issue is taking things so far beyond reasonable.
I don't have a huge problem with friendly smack talk, though it makes more sense to hector the players than the fans.
I am indeed a Twins fan. But, I've come to expect a level of mediocrity with the organization that doesn't really bother me. I look at it this way, they won 2 World Series with the roster they had and with the budget they had, so I can always look fondly on those wins. I haven't paid any attention to the Twins recently so couldn't tell you who's on the roster now
In a way, i'm glad the Twins are a losing team – it just means it's easier for me to get good seats at a good price. -
As a long-suffering Cubs fan, I can't relate to satisfaction with the "lovable loser" thing because our ownership was really taking advantage of fans who would accept mediocrity–but, it has been in some ways easier to have recent successes to think about, while also frustrating (the fact that the talent in this team has underperformed since the single title in over a century is maddening).
In the case of the Twins, right after taxpayers (whether they wanted to or not) subsidized that gorgeous ballpark, they had a chance to make a run in their final season in the Dome. They elected to make no moves before the trade deadline and failed to grab the brass ring that no one else in the AL Central wanted. That kind of buggery pisses me off, because it's a double tax: subsidies, and then at least $1 / oz beers, and what are you doing in return for the community that was extorted into subsidizing a billionaires pet vanity project?
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In the case of the Twins, right after taxpayers (whether they wanted to or not) subsidized that gorgeous ballpark, they had a chance to make a run in their final season in the Dome. They elected to make no moves before the trade deadline and failed to grab the brass ring that no one else in the AL Central wanted. That kind of buggery pisses me off, because it's a double tax: subsidies, and then at least $1 / oz beers, and what are you doing in return for the community that was extorted into subsidizing a billionaires pet vanity project?
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Yep, similar to the Vikings stadium that we subsidized. Can’t stand the Vikings, but then again, I was never a huge football fan. I’m guessing taxpayers helped foot the bill for the Minnesota Thunder stadium in St Paul as well
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Nigo / Human Made's overrated, as is Takashi Murakami and Kaws, Obey.
I agree. They are in a different marketplace to other Japanese brands, but I think design aesthetic has far overtaken quality in JP manufacturing (including electronics, hifi…). I can appreciate style and design, even if its not necessarily my own style, but when I look at the detail and finish of some brands, the price just does not match quality.
There is a huge amount of emperors new clothes in the market now, more than I've ever known.
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I kind of like the KAWS companions but haven’t gone out of my way to buy one. As for the rest, I have a HumanMade drawstring bag that was a gift. I dont think I’ll be wearing a burger fart jacket soon though.
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