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    • WlemonW
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      Yes, I think he could have explored how both the killers and law can't find ways to be "normal" when it comes to relationships. And that could be done with telling a true story, too. In many ways, Holden (and Tench and Carr, too) is like the men he wants to catch. He's methodical, exacting, obsessed. That idea could have been teased out, but, as you mentioned, @Matty123, the seeds are there.

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      • neph93N
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        I’ve always been a fan of Fincher’s cinematography and I can do style over content any day of the week. There’a plenty to enjoy in s2 of this show (the colour scale is sublime and the invocation of time and place too, amongst other things). I’m glad some enjoyed it but for me the promise of s1 was betrayed by the atrocious character development and neglect of narrative drive. You can do what he did in a movie and it can be stunning but stretched over 10 hours it becomes a waste.

        The classics of slow tv consist of wonderfully rendered atmosphere, plot development that can be slow to the point of glacial, but still purposeful, and character development in buckets. With pretty pictures to boot. MH s02 fails in at least two of these things.  It picked up in the last two episodes but the damage was done. Given some of the shows that combine first class story telling with technically perfect, spectacular visuals, that we’ve seen just this last year, it doesn’t cut it for me.

        «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
        We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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        • Stuart.TS
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          @neph93 examples, Please! Which shows do you feel hit your optimum watch criteria? Cinematography can compensate for less than perfect script and character development. But much like talking to a beautiful person that is an idiot, they stay with you for all the wrong reasons…or so my wife tells me  😃

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          • WlemonW
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            Lol.

            I'm not @neph93 but I think every Kubrick film is style over development. Wrong thread perhaps.  😃

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            • neph93N
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              @Stuart.T:

              @neph93 examples, Please! Which shows do you feel hit your optimum watch criteria?

              I think Mad Men is a perfect example of ticking all the boxes. The Handmaid’s Tale season 3 is a more recent example. It was both cinematic and literary, and had a slow build narrative to a stunning conclusion. The last episode is some of the most visually arresting and gripping television I’ve ever seen.

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              We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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              • neph93N
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                @Wlemon:

                Lol.

                I'm not @neph93 but I think every Kubrick film is style over development. Wrong thread perhaps.  😃

                Pertinent to the discussion though.

                I do love some Kubrick. It’s always going to work better in film than on TV where narrative will always be king.

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                We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                • BloodnThunderB
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                  @Matty123:

                  @neph93:

                  @steelworker:

                  Mindhunters second season on Netflix now. Fincher hits the ground running.

                  Starting tonight. Been looking forward to it.

                  Mind hunter S2 is fantastic

                  ^ This.  Both seasons of Mindhunter have been awesome.  Already looking forward to the next one.

                  IG: Shadesofindig0

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                  • SeulS
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                    SUCCESSION. HBO show about a family-run media conglomerate and its mainly family related events… My description doesn't do it justice... Give it a view if you can and decide for yourself (but give it three episodes)...

                    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7660850/

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                    • SeulS
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                      MR INBETWEEN. Season 2 has started and is as good as BARRY S02… Grab yourself a Fosters, some dimmies, and go fucken watch it ya cunt!..

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                      • gaseousclayG
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                        Finally finished the first half of Breaking Bad season 5 and it was excellent. I love how Jesse Pinkman starts off the series as a loser with a drug addiction to being the moral backbone of the show. And of course I’m not surprised by Walt’s downward spiral into becoming the kingpin of his own meth empire. I’m really curious about the El Camino movie now

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                        • Matty123M
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                          El Camino thumbs up

                          Long Live Pinkman Yo.

                          Maybe so. Maybe not

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                          • gaseousclayG
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                            Once I finish season 5 I’m gonna have to dive right into Better Call Saul

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                            • Paul9221P
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                              Just started watching Amazon's The Boys and we haven't been able to put it down.  Big thumbs up!

                              Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                              • gaseousclayG
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                                Finished up the rest of Breaking Bad S5. Good stuff [emoji106]

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                                • neph93N
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                                  First episode of Watchmen done last night. Promising. Just as unsettling and brutal as the book and very interesting to see what they are doing with the source material.

                                  «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                  We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                    First half of BOJACK HORSEMAN S06 out as of yesterday (Netflix)… Saw the first five eps: absolutely spiffin...

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                                    • Paul9221P
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                                      @neph93:

                                      First episode of Watchmen done last night. Promising. Just as unsettling and brutal as the book and very interesting to see what they are doing with the source material.

                                      I loved the book!  Even though most didn't care for the movie, I thought it did a pretty damn great job, especially in casting and set design.

                                      Did the show just launch?

                                      Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                                      • neph93N
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                                        @Paul9221:

                                        Did the show just launch?

                                        It did just launch, in Norway at least. On HBO here.

                                        The film had a lot going for it including the aspects you mention. One problem for me was that while it looked great and had some wonderful detail from the book, it was lacking in the atmosphere. Not enough existential dread. That would have been one thing but when they then changed the ending (no spoilers) in the way they did it became too sterile for me.

                                        No way that is going to happen with the tv show. It literally rained alien squid in the first episode 😉

                                        «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                        We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                        • Paul9221P
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                                          @neph93:

                                          @Paul9221:

                                          Did the show just launch?

                                          It did just launch, in Norway at least. On HBO here.

                                          The film had a lot going for it including the aspects you mention. One problem for me was that while it looked great and had some wonderful detail from the book, it was lacking in the atmosphere. Not enough existential dread. That would have been one thing but when they then changed the ending (no spoilers) in the way they did it became too sterile for me.

                                          No way that is going to happen with the tv show. It literally rained alien squid in the first episode 😉

                                          Oh man, I'm pumped!  Will check it out.

                                          Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                                          • gaseousclayG
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                                            Any of you watch Lost in Space on Netflix? Curious if it’s any good

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