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    • den1mheadD
      den1mhead
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      @neversummer - good luck with the Ouray 100 tomorrow.

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      • marlinM
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        Wow @neversummer, that's awesome, wish you all the best! Go, go, go, go!!!

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        • DionD
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          Over the last couple of weeks I've seen many people barefoot running during my runs in the park. It actually makes perfect sense and is pretty healthy if one thinks about it. I don't plan the transition in the foreseeable future as I'm already running in minimalistic shoes but has anyone switched to running barefoot and how long did it take to get used to it?

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          • Matty123M
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            Anybody have any plantar fasciitis advice? I have a 1/2 marathon I’m suppose to run on sept 14th. PF is really messing with my training

            Maybe so. Maybe not

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              kkibbey23
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              Ive never had it. But I would suggest looking at inserts and see if that helps longer term. Also look up stretches etc on YouTube.

              One thing I would consider is trying to find a PT/Chiro that does Graston or ART. I had ITBS pretty bad years ago training for a 100k and thought I’d have to stop running, but actually I could continue to run by getting some Grastion done.

              Take a look on google/YouTube and you can get the idea. It’s basically a butter knife tool thing that they rub over the area hard, its pretty intense but works great for me. The first few times I had some EPIC bruising.

              I guess the thought Is that bruising increases healing due to higher blood flow. I believe. (Pay attention to how it’s done because I’m sure that over time you could do the process your self, the tools are available on amazon for pretty cheap)

              Hope this helps buddy!

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              • BrockB
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                Epic run up in the Mt. Hood national forest. Hit the PCT for a while..

                Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                • BloodnThunderB
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                  @Dion:

                  Over the last couple of weeks I've seen many people barefoot running during my runs in the park. It actually makes perfect sense and is pretty healthy if one thinks about it. I don't plan the transition in the foreseeable future as I'm already running in minimalistic shoes but has anyone switched to running barefoot and how long did it take to get used to it?

                  Outside of running on soft surfaces for a relatively short period of time (20-30 mins) I would advise against it.  It is definitely good for your feet and legs as a form of strengthening but if you have been living in shoes all your life, like most first world people, the practice only increases your chances of injury.  I'm sure if you spent a year or more slowly building up a tolerance you'd probably be ok but for most people and their location barefoot running also becomes a limiter in terms of the number of run loop options.

                  IG: Shadesofindig0

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                  • BloodnThunderB
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                    @Matty123:

                    Anybody have any plantar fasciitis advice? I have a 1/2 marathon I’m suppose to run on sept 14th. PF is really messing with my training

                    @Matty123 unfortunately there isn't a whole lot you can do to make it go away.  Inserts may help, as will seeing a PT, but ultimately it is an injury that needs to run its course.  You can help it by staying away from pavement on your runs, running easy, and doing some light stretching/icing.  I don't advise more strenuous stretching as it ultimately just inflames the injury.  One positive, running on it isn't going to really harm you the way running on a stress fracture would.  Worst case scenario, if you're set on that half marathon, is to run it with the PF.

                    IG: Shadesofindig0

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                    • Matty123M
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                      @kkibbey23:

                      Ive never had it. But I would suggest looking at inserts and see if that helps longer term. Also look up stretches etc on YouTube.

                      One thing I would consider is trying to find a PT/Chiro that does Graston or ART. I had ITBS pretty bad years ago training for a 100k and thought I’d have to stop running, but actually I could continue to run by getting some Grastion done.

                      Take a look on google/YouTube and you can get the idea. It’s basically a butter knife tool thing that they rub over the area hard, its pretty intense but works great for me. The first few times I had some EPIC bruising.

                      I guess the thought Is that bruising increases healing due to higher blood flow. I believe. (Pay attention to how it’s done because I’m sure that over time you could do the process your self, the tools are available on amazon for pretty cheap)

                      Hope this helps buddy!

                      @BloodnThunder:

                      @Matty123:

                      Anybody have any plantar fasciitis advice? I have a 1/2 marathon I’m suppose to run on sept 14th. PF is really messing with my training

                      @Matty123 unfortunately there isn't a whole lot you can do to make it go away.  Inserts may help, as will seeing a PT, but ultimately it is an injury that needs to run its course.  You can help it by staying away from pavement on your runs, running easy, and doing some light stretching/icing.  I don't advise more strenuous stretching as it ultimately just inflames the injury.  One positive, running on it isn't going to really harm you the way running on a stress fracture would.  Worst case scenario, if you're set on that half marathon, is to run it with the PF.

                      Thank you fellas. I appreciate the input! Have a great day guys

                      Maybe so. Maybe not

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                        @marlin @den1mhead thank you gents.
                        I finished in 44:20, taking 1.5 hours out of my time from last year. Unfortunately I did not meet my ultimate time goal of 40 hours, but I also holed up for three hours at one of the aid stations due to a massive thunderstorm above the next pass- I got stuck above tree line in lightning last year, and it was terrifying, not willing to repeat. So without that and moving a little more expeditiously through later aid stations (it is tempting to just sit there!), I think I definitely would’ve been under 40 hours.
                        I equally or bested nearly all of my eta’s, so much so that I almost missed my crew at one of the aids as they weren’t expecting me for 45 more minutes. Don’t know if I’ll go back or not. This one has a lot of pluses, but also some big minuses. Photo from the summit of Twin Peaks, mile 80ish…

                        Wearing IH bandannas, neck and wrist as snot/sweat wiper.

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                        • DionD
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                          Cheers, BnT! The right place would be the biggest issue in my case but nevertheless it's a very interesting topic. I also hope that one day I'll be able to live near a nice beach or so where running barefoot would become a serious option.

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                          • den1mheadD
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                            @Dion:

                            Over the last couple of weeks I've seen many people barefoot running during my runs in the park. It actually makes perfect sense and is pretty healthy if one thinks about it. I don't plan the transition in the foreseeable future as I'm already running in minimalistic shoes but has anyone switched to running barefoot and how long did it take to get used to it?

                            @Dion . . .

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                            • bryaneidins70B
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                              Zola was doing it the 80's.

                              'Fail we may…Sail we must'

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                              • DionD
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                                Cheers, gentlemen!

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                                • BloodnThunderB
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                                  ^^ Probably the most common mistake you can make is "doing it because the pros do".  In this case especially.  Have to remember that they are just that, professional.  Their mechanics are strong, their feet and legs have taken a decade or more of constant hammering to reach that point of callousness, and on top of that they carry literally zero extra body weight.

                                  Not the same sport but it also makes me think of rich, middle aged people who want a 'nice' bike so they go and buy one that guys in the Tour de France ride.  Are those nice bikes?  Yes, really nice.  Are they fast?  Yes, as fast as it gets.  Are they comfortable?  No.  Not unless you've been riding 15-20 hours or more/week for a decade.  Otherwise you will go faster than you would on another type of bike but will be aching all over while doing so.

                                  IG: Shadesofindig0

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                                  • neph93N
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                                    @BloodnThunder:

                                    ^^ Probably the most common mistake you can make is "doing it because the pros do".

                                    I think that is a very common problem in nearly every athletic discipline that has entered the mainstream. The amount of 18-30 year olds I either teach or that go to my gym that start off weight training with a five day split "because it's what the pro's do and I want to be like them" is amazing. It is the least appropriate training split for anyone at all who isn't professional, already super trained, on steroids, or all of the above.

                                    Of course the businesses that grow up around running, weightlifting, cycling etc also exploit this tendency ruthlessly.

                                    “Some of those that work forces
                                    Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                    • ChrisC
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                                      Wait, what? Are you telling me that the $700 of supplements I just bought won't have me shredded and benching 500 pounds by the end on the month!?!

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                                      • neph93N
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                                        It will help @Chris but not unless you also pay some Instagram coach a large monthly fee to "tailor" some spurious and ineffective work-out routines for you. And by tailor I mean rob from "Pumping Iron".

                                        “Some of those that work forces
                                        Are the same that burn crosses”

                                        • Virginia Woolf
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                                        • rocketR
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                                          I might had a humbug idea some days ago….

                                          and today's whatever of it  ::) ;D...

                                          rocketrocksrox 🤙🏼🤙🏾

                                          It's all humbug, like everywhere
                                          R.I.P. Geo

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                                          • M
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                                            Go and get that gear dirty!  😃

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