*Hardcore*

[riffblaster general]

yessir

[John Ariz]

just saw a pic of R. General rocking his SWIZ shirt. Reminder to all those fans to pick up the new "DAG with Shawn" CD on Dischord. Can finally put the bootleg to rest.

[riffblaster general]

LOVE this record.  had the 7 inch set that thd records put out years ago, but i'm so stoked it got a proper remaster and rerelease.  Shawn Brown is king!!!

[SepticSef]

been listening to OFF! all day.i`m totally into keith morris new band.plus the video has footage of raymond pettibone painting so thats a plus.

[nameness]

So the question is, are they overrated and really one of the best HC bands ever?

[passthestripe]

@nameness:

So the question is, are they overrated and really one of the best HC bands ever?

One of the first shows I saw was SOIA, Ensign and Indecision… Still a classic night in my life.

Say what you want about SOIA, but every time I saw them I had a blast and sang and moshed like crazy.

[Max Power]

Overrated? Yes. Important? Yes. Maybe depends on wether you like NYHC or not. I personally am not the biggest fan of Lou Koller's voice, tbh.

[riffblaster general]

i gotta say they lost me after just look around.  Generally speaking i'm not a huge fan of nyhc.  i feel like there were about 4 or 5 bands that were truly great and about a hundred who just sorta rode coat tails.

[nameness]

And the four or five are….  drumroll...

[riffblaster general]

Agnostic Front (early),  Cro Mags, Kraut,  can you count the Bad Brains?

[nameness]

Kraut, wasn't expecting that one.  Always thought of them more in the punk vein.  I'd say BB is DC/NYC.  So basically nothing past '86?

[riffblaster general]

for me yes.    there were other bands that i liked, but none of them had the staying power like these bands and everything that came after them seemed to borrow from them very liberally.

and its highly debateable but i would even include sonic youth in there.

[Max Power]

^Agnostic Front (early) and Cro Mags are well chosen for NYHC, IMO. The point is, many "average" rock or metal fans think of SOIA as the typical hc band. I don't, to me the BAd Brains, Minor Threat, Adolescents, Black Flag, Middle Class, 7 Seconds, MDC (and german: Spermbirds and Inferno) and so on are "typical". SOIA come far beyond that.

[hasty]

Bit late picking this up, but have been enjoying The Secret's "Solve Et Coagula"

[nameness]

Thread has fallen to the third page, that's unacceptable.

One of the most underrated bands & albums of that time, in my opinion.

[Max Power]

I love this song right now. Fits perfect. Just bought tickets for their next show.

Sick of drying up in the sun
Sick of this island
Sick of fun
Sick of being sober
Sick of starting over
Sick of Black Flag
Sick of Cro-Mags.

Sick of living
Sick of people dying
Sick of the buying
Sick of trying
Sick of television
Sick of telephones
Sick of homophobes
Sick of condos.

Sick of the GOP
Sick of liberals
Sick of me
Sick of Obama
Sick of head trauma
So very tired of feeling sick.

Sick of living in America
Sick of mass hysteria
Sick of realism
Sick of Buddhism
Sick of long boards
Sick of hardcore
Sick of Baptists
Sick of atheists
Sick of police
Sick of yuppies
Sick of paying rent
Sick of being bent
Sick of hearing lies
Sick of mankind.

And tonight: Roger Miret!

[stever]

i was taken aback when i first played that album… kinda like _whoa wait what? this is what ceremony is doing now?

cool._

as much as i like the 45-second mosh fodder stuff, they're really starting to hit their stride now

[riffblaster general]

i think the new record is by far their best.  i could appreciate the other records for what they were but never found myself wanting to listen to them, but this record is honestly really interesting and i keep coming back to it.

[Max Power]

Most probably nothing special to you guys, but I was honored to shake Roger Mirets hand after the show. There were just a few people who were in the mood to move their asses, and I was one of them.

[riffblaster general]

always cool to shake roger miret's hand.