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    • passthestripeP
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      @nameness:

      So the question is, are they overrated and really one of the best HC bands ever?

      One of the first shows I saw was SOIA, Ensign and Indecision… Still a classic night in my life.

      Say what you want about SOIA, but every time I saw them I had a blast and sang and moshed like crazy.

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      • Max PowerM
        Max Power
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        Overrated? Yes. Important? Yes. Maybe depends on wether you like NYHC or not. I personally am not the biggest fan of Lou Koller's voice, tbh.

        @elclintor:

        > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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        • riffblaster generalR
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          i gotta say they lost me after just look around.  Generally speaking i'm not a huge fan of nyhc.  i feel like there were about 4 or 5 bands that were truly great and about a hundred who just sorta rode coat tails.

          PUT DOWN THAT STARBUCKS, PICK UP THAT GNARBUCKS!!

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          • namenessN
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            And the four or five are….  drumroll...

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            • riffblaster generalR
              riffblaster general
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              Agnostic Front (early),  Cro Mags, Kraut,  can you count the Bad Brains?

              PUT DOWN THAT STARBUCKS, PICK UP THAT GNARBUCKS!!

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              • namenessN
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                Kraut, wasn't expecting that one.  Always thought of them more in the punk vein.  I'd say BB is DC/NYC.  So basically nothing past '86?

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                • riffblaster generalR
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                  for me yes.    there were other bands that i liked, but none of them had the staying power like these bands and everything that came after them seemed to borrow from them very liberally.

                  and its highly debateable but i would even include sonic youth in there.

                  PUT DOWN THAT STARBUCKS, PICK UP THAT GNARBUCKS!!

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                  • Max PowerM
                    Max Power
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                    ^Agnostic Front (early) and Cro Mags are well chosen for NYHC, IMO. The point is, many "average" rock or metal fans think of SOIA as the typical hc band. I don't, to me the BAd Brains, Minor Threat, Adolescents, Black Flag, Middle Class, 7 Seconds, MDC (and german: Spermbirds and Inferno) and so on are "typical". SOIA come far beyond that.

                    @elclintor:

                    > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                    • hastyH
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                      Bit late picking this up, but have been enjoying The Secret's "Solve Et Coagula"

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                      • namenessN
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                        Thread has fallen to the third page, that's unacceptable.

                        One of the most underrated bands & albums of that time, in my opinion.

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                        • Max PowerM
                          Max Power
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                          I love this song right now. Fits perfect. Just bought tickets for their next show.

                          Sick of drying up in the sun
                          Sick of this island
                          Sick of fun
                          Sick of being sober
                          Sick of starting over
                          Sick of Black Flag
                          Sick of Cro-Mags.

                          Sick of living
                          Sick of people dying
                          Sick of the buying
                          Sick of trying
                          Sick of television
                          Sick of telephones
                          Sick of homophobes
                          Sick of condos.

                          Sick of the GOP
                          Sick of liberals
                          Sick of me
                          Sick of Obama
                          Sick of head trauma
                          So very tired of feeling sick.

                          Sick of living in America
                          Sick of mass hysteria
                          Sick of realism
                          Sick of Buddhism
                          Sick of long boards
                          Sick of hardcore
                          Sick of Baptists
                          Sick of atheists
                          Sick of police
                          Sick of yuppies
                          Sick of paying rent
                          Sick of being bent
                          Sick of hearing lies
                          Sick of mankind.

                          And tonight: Roger Miret!

                          @elclintor:

                          > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                            i was taken aback when i first played that album… kinda like _whoa wait what? this is what ceremony is doing now?

                            cool._

                            as much as i like the 45-second mosh fodder stuff, they're really starting to hit their stride now

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                            • riffblaster generalR
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                              i think the new record is by far their best.  i could appreciate the other records for what they were but never found myself wanting to listen to them, but this record is honestly really interesting and i keep coming back to it.

                              PUT DOWN THAT STARBUCKS, PICK UP THAT GNARBUCKS!!

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                              • Max PowerM
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                                Most probably nothing special to you guys, but I was honored to shake Roger Mirets hand after the show. There were just a few people who were in the mood to move their asses, and I was one of them.

                                @elclintor:

                                > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                                • riffblaster generalR
                                  riffblaster general
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                                  always cool to shake roger miret's hand.

                                  PUT DOWN THAT STARBUCKS, PICK UP THAT GNARBUCKS!!

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                                  • Max PowerM
                                    Max Power
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                                    Just got tickets for Off! and Fucked Up. Yehaa.

                                    @elclintor:

                                    > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                                    • riffblaster generalR
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                                      nice!

                                      PUT DOWN THAT STARBUCKS, PICK UP THAT GNARBUCKS!!

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                                      • passthestripeP
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                                        Few friends are trying to get me to see H20 in a few months, not feeling in 2011  ::)

                                        One great record from recent months is the Vaccuum seven on Lengua Armada, so simple yet oh so very real.

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                                        • caseywisenbakerC
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                                          @Max:

                                          Just got tickets for Off! and Fucked Up. Yehaa.

                                          OFF! is awesome! ive seen then 4 or 5 times now…i think they are the best band in hardcore right now. everything they have put out so far has been perfect.

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                                          • Max PowerM
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                                            ^I think so, too. Of course I never saw Black Flag (especially not with Keith), but it gives me the chance to get a glimpse. Who would think that he's 55 now? I just read an interview with him and shared most of his views about the scene etc. Great guy!

                                            @elclintor:

                                            > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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