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    IH-526J-DD - Double Duck Type III Jacket

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    • zatenmZ
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      @Paul9221:

      Why exactly is this jacket so much tougher than other duck, like the 2526J for instance?

      My guess is the indigo saturation that stiffs the duck.

      WTB: IHSH-154 Grey M, IHSH-91 M

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      • GilesG
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        It's the starch and the indigo…...

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        • Paul9221P
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          @Giles:

          It's the starch and the indigo…...

          Oh, didn't realize this one was starched.  That explains a lot!  Was this jacket starched just for aesthetics or is there another reason to make it so crispy? 🙂

          Blanket-line all the things!!!

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          • neph93N
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            @Paul9221:

            @Giles:

            It's the starch and the indigo…...

            Oh, didn't realize this one was starched.  That explains a lot!  Was this jacket starched just for aesthetics or is there another reason to make it so crispy? 🙂

            Starch is used a lot as a sizing agent during weaving, not for aesthetics. It strengthens the cotton yarn making it less likely to break during the weaving process, which would necessitate stopping the loom and resetting the process. I don’t know for sure but I’d imagine this would be more of an issue with duck than denim.

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            • GilesG
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              https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=11987.msg575128#msg575128

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              • Paul9221P
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                That's really neat!  I had no idea.  Thanks, Neph & Giles!

                I'm still a little unclear as to why the DD is so much crispier than my 2526J, though.  Is the 2526J also starched but the DD is just stiffer due to the indigo?

                I'm naming this jacket Starchy.

                Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                • GilesG
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                  A sizing agent is used in all denims and ducks we make, a broken warp is an expensive thing in terms of loom stoppage time plus when the loom is restarted, the loom takes a little time to get back to steady state, so a few inches of fabric remain unusable.  Rope dyed indigo is stiff, remember, the dye does not penetrate the yarn, it oxidises on the surface….

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • Paul9221P
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                    Thanks for the lesson!  I just read a little more about rope dyed indigo.

                    At the risk of annoying you with many questions, so is the DD more stiff because it had indigo rope dyed warp and weft (hence the double duck) while the brown duck is less stiff because only either the warp or weft are rope dyed?

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                    Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                    • GilesG
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                      In (our) brown duck, the warp and the weft is the same yarn, and is not rope dyed.

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • Paul9221P
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                        Thanks, G, that makes sense now!

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                        Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                          • den1mheadD
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                            ^ I love this image of you philosophising in your double double type lll

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                              ^ I love this image of you philosophising in your double double type lll

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                              In case someone doesn't see in the other place where I posted a shot with this backdrop, my brother was in town and brought a massive setup to photograph my cats. He had lighting set up in some specific way, and he had me do a specific pose that he had in mind that would work best for the lighting. 😃

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                                This is starting to get some pretty cool fading.  🙂

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                                • den1mheadD
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                                  Your jacket is progressing beautifully @cander49

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                                  • chubaccaC
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                                    Nice update @cander49, that jacket is one of a kind.

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                                        Holy smokes…  😎 ???

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                                          I've got mine on today and checked the thread for the first time in awhile, so I'm just seeing @lazyoldsun's post here. Insane!

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                                          • lazyoldsunL
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                                            a couple more photos..

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