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    IH-634SR - 21/23oz 5 Year Anniversary Straight Cut

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    • GilesG
      Giles
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      The ones I filched were Japanese length….

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      • ?
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        got mine on now  i wont take em of till sunday pm

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        • BeatleB
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          great…post some pics...you know - or it didn't happen

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          • SeulS
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            I proxied one of these and just hàd to try them on before packing and shipping out - holy cow… They freakin weighed in at 1.450 kgs as well...  😞

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            • SimonQ.S
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              @Seul:

              I proxied one of these and just hàd to try them on before packing and shipping out - holy cow… They freakin weighed in at 1.450 kgs as well...  😞
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              Agreed, these aren´t made for the faint hearted 😉

              selling: http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4495.0
              seeking: http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4788.0

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              • SimonS
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                @Seul:

                I proxied one of these and just hàd to try them on before packing and shipping out - holy cow… They freakin weighed in at 1.450 kgs as well...  😞
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                Comparing the weight of my 21oz 634s - 1.02kg, against my 634SR at 1.33kg, my calculations make the SR's denim weight just over 26oz and added to that the 634s are 1.5" longer in the leg than the SR's!!

                Give me the luxuries of life and I will willingly do without the necessities - Frank Lloyd Wright

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                • BeatleB
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                  lol…subtract the weight of thread and pockets and rivets and buttons

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                  • SimonS
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                    But IH-634S have buttons, thread, pockets and rivets too?

                    Give me the luxuries of life and I will willingly do without the necessities - Frank Lloyd Wright

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                    • thewickettT
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                      different hardware

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                      • BeatleB
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                        yeah, but you have not told us the weight of the 634s after your math…Simon, please do and than we can see what's what..hehe

                        We can do anything

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                          @Simon:

                          Comparing the weight of my 21oz 634s - 1.02kg, against my 634SR at 1.33kg, my calculations make the SR's denim weight just over 26oz and added to that the 634s are 1.5" longer in the leg than the SR's!!

                          @Beatle:

                          yeah, but you have not told us the weight of the 634s after your math…Simon, please do and than we can see what's what..hehe

                          I would guess Simon is calculating that because the 634s and their 21 oz denim weigh 1.02kg, and a similarly sized pair of 634sr weight 1.33 kg (about 30% heavier), and both pair have rivets and pockets and buttons and such but those factors are going to equal out for the most part, well then the sr denim must be about 30% heavier, so 21 oz plus another 30% equals… just over 27 oz... or some sort of similar calculation...

                          My calculation:

                          634sr denim = heavy enough for me

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                          • GilesG
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                            Simon’s calculations are fine and are the method I use to establish the weight of fabrics I do not know the weight of……....It does not matter what the weight of either is (though of course the person doing the math does need to know), what matters is the ratio and that then gets applied to 21….

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • J
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                              I don't have the 634s to compare but I thought I'd read the 634sr was a little fuller cut than the 634s, no? (comparing the same size, of course)

                              you know what this means, right Simon? Now we expect measurements from you, take this math to the next level…
                              ::)

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                              • BeatleB
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                                well, sticklers, it's weighed per yard..so unless you know how much one yard weighs - all our math is useless..

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                                • GilesG
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                                  NO.  We make the assumption that the 21 really does weigh 21oz.  We then weigh a pair of 634S  and a pair of 634sr in the same tag size.  The 634S weigh (lets say) 120% of the pair of 634S, then the weight of the denim in the 634SR is 21x1.20 = 25,2

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                  • BeatleB
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                                    more denim used on a 634sr, due to wider cut Plus, more starch in the 634sr since it's unsanforized. not that it matters…

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                                      hey Beatle, any SR's in the heavyweight contest?

                                      shame if there's not, after all it is a different denim product than the BB's and 634s and 666's which I know are represented, and the heaviest offering to date from the king of heavy denim.

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                                      • BeatleB
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                                        yes, one or 2 pairs, I believe

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                                        • SimonS
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                                          @jacoavlu:

                                          @Simon:

                                          Comparing the weight of my 21oz 634s - 1.02kg, against my 634SR at 1.33kg, my calculations make the SR's denim weight just over 26oz and added to that the 634s are 1.5" longer in the leg than the SR's!!

                                          @Beatle:

                                          yeah, but you have not told us the weight of the 634s after your math…Simon, please do and than we can see what's what..hehe

                                          I would guess Simon is calculating that because the 634s and their 21 oz denim weigh 1.02kg, and a similarly sized pair of 634sr weight 1.33 kg (about 30% heavier), and both pair have rivets and pockets and buttons and such but those factors are going to equal out for the most part, well then the sr denim must be about 30% heavier, so 21 oz plus another 30% equals… just over 27 oz... or some sort of similar calculation...

                                          My calculation:

                                          634sr denim = heavy enough for me

                                          Spot on jacoavlu, I'm assuming that the 634S are genuine 21oz denim and calculating from that. I know the 634SR is a slightly fuller cut and have taken that in to account with my 26oz guestimation, if the cuts where identical then it would be 27.5oz denim! Photos of cuts and scale readings when I'm at home next, if required.

                                          Give me the luxuries of life and I will willingly do without the necessities - Frank Lloyd Wright

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                                          • BeatleB
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                                            Love the math. but seriously, are we assuming that Haraki doesn't know what weight the denim is that he makes ?

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                                            http://bybeatle.com

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