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    • marlinM
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      Thanks for your help @neph93!

      I thought the Smokejumper was looking like if there was a halfslip used, which leeds me to the next questions. Tried to finde on the Wesco site some infos about it, but didn't found any. The halfslip get's the boot more stability, stiffens and a slightly different angle, right? Is this a option I should go for if I want the boot to be worn on easy half- or even day hikes. I do not want to use this build for my tours in the alps, just for some extended easy walks along rivers, lakes, forests and of course around the town as well. Good weather as well shitty, wett and slippery one, you'll get the idea. Do I benefit from the halfslip in this case? I like to think that the more stability/stiffens is welcomed, if the comfort when broken in doesn't suffer.

      I also configured a leather lining. I picked up, that it makes the boot longer lasting, and the shaft on a 8" boot a bit more stiff/ holding it's shape. On the other hand the boot get even more heavy, which isn't an advantage for my intended use.

      The sole I chose is the #100F over the #100 just because of the non marking advantage. But how is the rubber difference between the both on the described terrain above. Which rubber is better on a wet ground/stones? Or isn't there a difference at all, that it just boils down to the heat resistance?

      Thanks you all for your thoughts in advance!

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      • neph93N
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        The half slip basically gives more rise to the heel, changing the angle of the boot. Wesco use it as standard in their work boots that are intended for working high up, such as standing in trees, or up ladders and telegraph poles etc. This is because standing on your toes all the time is easier with a raised heel/downward angled foot.

        This is from https://bigblackboots.com/bwfeatur.htm which is a good Wesco resource:

        _"The "extra half slip" is an extra leather insole which extends from the heel through the instep (about the middle of the foot). It's about 4 mm thick.

        It's purpose is to provide additional rigidity and support to the arch of the boot. This is important for lineman boots because they are typically worn by linemen who spend their work day on ladders. This ensures that they will be able to stand on a ladder for hours at a time without having the sole bend at the arch and dig into the foot.

        Many people enjoy the benefit of the extra arch support even though they don't stand on ladders all day"._

        I use my Smokejumpers for the kind of walking you describe and find them very comfy. There's a lot of hiking up rock involved so a lot of toe heavy walking. I'd guess the half slip helps in that circumstance. I also have a half slip in my JH Classics, but that is there because the #4014 Armortred sole is quite flat otherwise.

        The Smokejumpers have the now defunct Fire and Ice #100 sole. Other than the non marking, fire resistant qualities of the #100F I don't think there will be any practical difference for your intended use, but I'm not sure about that tbh.

        “Some of those that work forces
        Are the same that burn crosses”

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        • marlinM
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          Thanks @neph93!

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          • neph93N
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            Can anyone speak to the non-slip capabilities of the Vibram #269 sole? Hoping it might be a good solution to the interminable ice up here…

            “Some of those that work forces
            Are the same that burn crosses”

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            • GilesG
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              I have the 269 on a number of mine.  Never had any issues but we don't often get ice underfoot….It's a relatively soft compound so moulds to the surface you are walking on to some extent...

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              • neph93N
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                @Giles:

                It's a relatively soft compound so moulds to the surface you are walking on to some extent…

                This is what I’m thinking will help. Also that the small ribs will catch on whatever grit or ridges their may be on the ice. I have some pairs of sneakers that are better on ice than the luggiest of lugged soles.

                (They will also look great on a pair of Morrisons…).

                “Some of those that work forces
                Are the same that burn crosses”

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                • GilesG
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                  Those "ribs" wear off in no time flat.  Seems to make no difference to grip….

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • RoknrolusaR
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                    @spacecadet:

                    @Roknrolusa:

                    I just ordered some HH 10" regular toe Jobmasters with all Nickle eyelets. Just couldn't resist after seeing all those 100th Anniversary pic's.

                    Those sound sick. Please post pics when you get your hands on them. I’m considering a similar makeup. What was the up charge for horsehide?

                    I'll have them the middle of June when I return to the States, post pic's then. The upcharge was $125, kinda steep but still under $600 so all's good.

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                    • spacecadetS
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                      @Roknrolusa:

                      @spacecadet:

                      @Roknrolusa:

                      I just ordered some HH 10" regular toe Jobmasters with all Nickle eyelets. Just couldn't resist after seeing all those 100th Anniversary pic's.

                      Those sound sick. Please post pics when you get your hands on them. I’m considering a similar makeup. What was the up charge for horsehide?

                      I'll have them the middle of June when I return to the States, post pic's then. The upcharge was $125, kinda steep but still under $600 so all's good.

                      Not a bad upcharge considering the premium leather upgrade. Please post pics when they arrive.

                      I was on Instagram earlier and saw that Wesco will be replacing their standard brown oil tan with a lighter brown color. The following pic shows the current brown oil tan, chestnut replacement oil tan, and British tan domane for comparison.

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                      • AppfaffA
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                        The chestnut is beautiful !

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                        • spacecadetS
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                          Does anyone out there have any details about the special makeups for Wesco’s 100 year anniversary? There should be some preorders coming for a few different makeups.

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                          • neph93N
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                            @Stuart.T re. our short discussion on the RW thread, here are some examples of Wesco Boss/Morrisons with either lowered logger heels or Christy soles, taken from Wesco Japan's IG feed. You should check out Wesco's boot builder tool for custom options, https://www.wescoboots.com/builder/MensCustomBoot.aspx?id=Boss although fair warning, it's a rabbit hole…

                            “Some of those that work forces
                            Are the same that burn crosses”

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                            • Stuart.TS
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                              @neph93 thanks man, appreciate that. I really like the last pair of boots. That sole Is a good compromise for me. I went on the boot builder last night and created a grail pair of boots…o it $925 without shipping to UK! That's an expensive mistake if fit is not right. I can see the merit in investing. There's no doubt they are well built boots and would do any job intended of them. I'm still on the fence (when that usually happens I fall off the fence and buy things anyway!).

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                              • neph93N
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                                $925? That's impressive  😃

                                I just spec'ed an 8" version of that last black roughout boot you like without instep straps for $650.

                                Btw, the thing to do is to order through Giles or Alex. They will quote you a full price including shipping and so forth.

                                “Some of those that work forces
                                Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                • Bulatik85B
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                                  @Stuart.T:

                                  @neph93 thanks man, appreciate that. I really like the last pair of boots. That sole Is a good compromise for me. I went on the boot builder last night and created a grail pair of boots…o it $925 without shipping to UK! That's an expensive mistake if fit is not right. I can see the merit in investing. There's no doubt they are well built boots and would do any job intended of them. I'm still on the fence (when that usually happens I fall off the fence and buy things anyway!).

                                  you could try any Wesco boot from Giles store(off-line or online), check the correct size and fit, return it and then order(from Giles) any custom boot you want in the same size and last. In this case you would minimize the chance of wrong size or fit.

                                  .Net )

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                                  • Stuart.TS
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                                    Damn you bastards. Stop taking away any excuses I could use. I'll give you my wife's number and maybe YOU can clear it with her!  😢

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                                    • neph93N
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                                      @Stuart.T:

                                      Damn you bastards. Stop taking away any excuses I could use….

                                      This is in the forum membership fine print: “As I was once enabled, so shall I enable thee…”

                                      It says nothing about responsibilities towards other members infinitely better half’s, although there is a thread for that. You seem a thoroughly decent chap however and that thread is a gateway to dark arts and dire deeds...

                                      “Some of those that work forces
                                      Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                      • ChrisC
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                                        But those burlap rough out boots were worth it, weren't they?

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                                        • neph93N
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                                          @Chris:

                                          But those burlap rough out boots were worth it, weren't they?

                                          You mean mine? Oh hell yes. I have no problem paying what custom Wesco’s cost given what you get.

                                          “Some of those that work forces
                                          Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                          • spacecadetS
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                                            @Stuart.T:

                                            @neph93 thanks man, appreciate that. I really like the last pair of boots. That sole Is a good compromise for me. I went on the boot builder last night and created a grail pair of boots…o it $925 without shipping to UK! That's an expensive mistake if fit is not right. I can see the merit in investing. There's no doubt they are well built boots and would do any job intended of them. I'm still on the fence (when that usually happens I fall off the fence and buy things anyway!).

                                            you could try any Wesco boot from Giles store(off-line or online), check the correct size and fit, return it and then order(from Giles) any custom boot you want in the same size and last. In this case you would minimize the chance of wrong size or fit.

                                            I did the try on boot but the problem was I ended up keeping the try on boots and now I’m thinking of jumping in on one of the 100th anniversary boots.  :o

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