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    • JDelageJ
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      Those look big.

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      • kye4someK
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        @JDelage:

        Those look big.

        Considered mid sized at 40 mm Diameter Case.

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        • DishelveledD
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          Dig that top Maratac alot!

          Instagram: defy_delphi

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          • GraemeG
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            Hodinkee have a piece on the Pinion Atom.

            It's a good looking watch, and I prefer it to the Axis. It also costs $900, so could be posted to the other thread.

            The article is positive, with a certain amount of humour. The commentariat less so.

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              The good old is a Watch with a known but cheap Movement worth the Price XY is so 2017  😃

              The one thing that the Basic Hodinkee Watch-Troll never even takes into consideration is that watches like e.g. the Pinion carry a unique Design where e.g. Stowa basicly does a Fliegeruhr, a Marine and some sort of Nomos meets Max Bill Design which means the whole Design Process is cut out of the Overall pricing which in turn results in much lower Prices.

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              • neph93N
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                @Steffen:

                Basic Hodinkee Watch Troll

                Hate it when they show up in Skyrim…

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                Are the same that burn crosses”

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                • GraemeG
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                  I'm pretty certain that every article on Hodinkee has the following responses:

                  • It's too big. Should be no more than 38 mm.

                  • It's too expensive. Should be 50% of what they're asking.

                  @Steffen I suspect that Stowa have a larger production than Pinion, which gives them better scales of economy. Seiko will be several order of magnitudes bigger.

                  The other thing is that you can't compare the finish of watches so easily from photos. A Tudor Black Bay isn't as well constructed as a Rolex Submariner or Sea Dweller, and you can see where corners have been cut. But you probably wouldn't notice the difference without holding both.

                  The Pinions that I've seen look pretty solid. That's going to cost money.

                  @neph93 I thought that the Norwegian government have employees to deal with those sorts of problems. 😃

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                  • GraemeG
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                    If you're after a Patek Philippe Nautilus in steel, then might I suggest you buy before 1st March. Apparently prices are going to rise by 20% on that date.

                    The excuse seems to be that it's a way of combating the grey market. Or maybe Patek are being greedy.

                    Ironically, Thierry Stern, Patek's CEO, has criticised brands for raising prices above inflation…

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                    • ChrisC
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                      @Graeme:

                      I'm pretty certain that every article on Hodinkee has the following responses:

                      • It's too big. Should be no more than 38 mm.

                      • It's too expensive. Should be 50% of what they're asking.

                      At least the first item has changed a bit.  Remember when the standard response was, "it's too small.  Anything under 45mm is for ladies or children."?

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                      • louisboscoL
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                        @Graeme:

                        If you're after a Patek Philippe Nautilus in steel, then might I suggest you buy before 1st March. Apparently prices are going to rise by 20% on that date.

                        The excuse seems to be that it's a way of combating the grey market. Or maybe Patek are being greedy.

                        Ironically, Thierry Stern, Patek's CEO, has criticised brands for raising prices above inflation…

                        duly noted. i'll make some enquires when i see my cousin over CNY..

                        "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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                        • JDelageJ
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                          @Graeme:

                          If you're after a Patek Philippe Nautilus in steel, then might I suggest you buy before 1st March. Apparently prices are going to rise by 20% on that date.

                          It's an awesome looking watch, like the Royal Oak, thank you Mr. Genta. Not sure I want to spend $25,000 on one though. Much less $30,000…

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                          • GraemeG
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                            The rumour is that the 5711 and 5712 are getting bumped up.

                            The Nautilus is a nice watch, but like @JDelage I don't think it's $30K nice. In fact I prefer the Aquanaut, and the steel Pilot's Calatrava (5522A) that they did as a US only model last year.

                            @Chris I'm quite liking some obnoxiously big watches these days. Probably because they're antifashion. 😉

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                            • ChrisC
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                              That reminds me- I was watching LA to Vegas the other night and the pilot was wearing, appropriately enough, an IWC Big Pilot.  I rather liked it.

                              The show is only ok, though.

                              Does that mean you're looking to replace your tiny Tender, @Graeme?

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                              • GraemeG
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                                @Chris the tiny Tender needs a bit of love right now. The crystal is cracked, the strap has split, and it probably needs a service.

                                I would like to get a new watch to replace it, but I've not been working as much as I should have been over the last year, and so am currently a bit broke. Assuming I get my life back in order, I'm tempted by the Omega Railmaster, LUC 8HF, and the Zenith Defy Lab (if a production version actually eventuates).

                                That said, I do like the limited edition IWC Big Pilot's Big Date anniversary special, so I might get something a bit larger. 😃

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                                • louisboscoL
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                                  i think it depends on what you're wearing it with. i would think the aquanaut looks better as an everyday. but the nautilus can look nice when you're dressing up… but then again, you could swap the bracelet of the nautilus for something a little rugged..

                                  "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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                                    JLC - Memovox Tribute to Deep Sea Euro version on a vintage tropic watch strap. Love, love, love this watch. Polaris is a beaut also.

                                    Who'se getting a Patek? Me likey, too 🙂

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                                    • GraemeG
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                                      @QuantumMechanic I do like the JLC Memovox models, and agree about the new Polaris.

                                      I'm not planning on getting a Patek, and if I did would probably be the Aquanaut. I like the 5522A, but there are seventeen on Chrono24 selling for between $50K and $60K. That's not bad inflation for a piece that originally retailed for under $22K. :o

                                      That said, Patek make 50,000 to 60,000 watches a year, so a run of 600 are a fair chunk of last year's production.

                                      @louisbosco I suspect that an Aquanaut would dress up nicely on a leather strap.

                                      As for the Nautilus, I'm not a fan of bracelets, and being an integrated design would make it harder to swap for a strap.

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                                      • louisboscoL
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                                        @Graeme it's always a tough choice deciding between the two. i make a decision on which one i like better now and 3 months down the road, i'll probably forget which one it was. i do like the 'chequered' face on the aquanaut though..

                                        is chrono24 really a good place to sus out current prices and retail prices?

                                        "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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                                        • GraemeG
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                                          @louisbosco I've got no idea if Chrono24 is the best source of secondhand prices. It's more that it's a convenient place to check.

                                          Incidentally, the Patek Advanced Research Aquanaut is being advertised around $160K there, versus $59K when new. I should've pulled my money out of the stock market and bought one instead. Especially after last week. :o

                                          Surprisingly the rarer, earlier Advanced Research models are a lot cheaper. I suspect that a lot of things are speculative listings.

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                                          • louisboscoL
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                                            new rubber b strap. unfortunately due to small wrists and the ability to cut the straps only on 1 side, they kinda sit awkwardly for now.. but i'm happy with it still..

                                            "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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