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    • S
      Steffen
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      Sauna, Spa, Massage ?  😉

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      • AppfaffA
        Appfaff
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        So who is going to be the first to man up and do a Smolov Squat cycle in 2018?

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        • JDelageJ
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          @TrickHell:

          … before starting the 10,000 Kettlebell Swing Challenge.

          Can you give us some details on this? It sounds like fun!  😉

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          • ChrisC
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            https://www.t-nation.com/workouts/10000-swing-kettlebell-workout

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            • JDelageJ
              JDelage
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              f*** that!  ???

              500 kbs per workout! Ouch.

              @TrickHell - I'm looking forward to reading how it's going. You're super bad ass.

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              • neph93N
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                @Appfaff:

                So who is going to be the first to man up and do a Smolov Squat cycle in 2018?

                Just looked that up. Brutal stuff. I do love a bit of squatting though and I’d love to give it a try. Of course that is easy for me to say with a suspected ACL tear and/or damage to the meniscus [emoji16]

                “Some of those that work forces
                Are the same that burn crosses”

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                • AppfaffA
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                  You mention your DL sucks (edit: I think it’s actually quite good based on your BW). You do a lot of upper back work, but are you doing extensive core work?

                  No matter how strong your back is, if your abs can’t hold your trunk, the weight won’t go up.

                  PS. Sit ups are not ab work.

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                  • AppfaffA
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                    @neph93:

                    Just looked that up. Brutal stuff. I do love a bit of squatting though and I’d love to give it a try. Of course that is easy for me to say with a suspected ACL tear and/or damage to the meniscus [emoji16]

                    Yeah, it’s essentially “unnecessary” in every way, but people go ape shit for them because it’s “hard.”

                    Compared to most Olympic style squat programs, Smolov is a boarderline hypertrophy program. Anything close to and above 12 reps for multiple sets really is.

                    I followed about 4 months of a “mini-Smolov” that was adapted more to C.F. athletes a few years ago, and my squat actually went down. But I have never wanted to be big, my sport of choice (weightlifting) values strength in small sizes.

                    The Gayle Hatch squat program, however, I have seen amazing results multiple times. While my L4/L5 issues keep me from squatting, or pulling heavy, I always saw my strength go up, usually seeing my 1RM turn into a 3-5RM within 6 weeks or so.

                    And I agree - now might now be the best time to do a lot of squats in your knee brace 🏋️‍♀️

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                    • spitfiredealerS
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                      @TrickHell Your Revised Deadlift day seem much more sensible. You must of been knackered after the original.

                      Do you Incorporate Wendler's 1st set last principle? I love this. Feel it has really helped.

                      For reference my deadlift day looks like this:

                      Deadlift
                      5/3/1 then FSL
                      high bar squats 5x10
                      good mornings 5 x10
                      Some kinda row (really liking DB Seal rows at the moment) 5x10
                      Barbell curls 5x10
                      Some kinda ab work for 3 sets

                      bodyweight 80kg
                      top set so far of this circle 172.5kg x 7
                      best ever dead was 240kg but I was about 10kg heavier. If I can get near that at this weight I will be over the moon

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                      • AppfaffA
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                        @trickhell - obviously, DL and FS are going to be the best core movements you can do, but you will get to a point where your back and hamstrings can do more than you’re Core. This is where most PL get hurt.

                        I would dedicate 5-10 minutes at the beginning of every workouts getting your core activated and then another 5-10 minutes at the end of your workout hitting different core movements.

                        My favorite core movements:

                        1. Hanging Leg Raises (straight legs, no swing)
                        2. Front Leaning rest holds (gotta go 60 sec or more)
                        3. Russian Twists with a small led ball or dumbbell (legs elevated, objects touches each side of the body as the trunk twists)
                        4. If you have a GHD start slow by doing 5-7 GHD sit Ups everyday and every 2-3 week’s add another 3-4 reps. It’s not the safest movement in the world, so start slowly, no matter where your fitness level is.

                        Good luck, I’d love to see videos of your most recent ME sets.

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                        • AppfaffA
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                          Planks are great, FLR does more for your upper back, so I usually have people do those.

                          Remember - it’s not working until you start shaking!

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                          • BoyoB
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                            @TrickHell As a lifter who is well past his prime and as I make my slow decline into the "old man zone" (53 yrs old now) I can appreciate your enthusiasm for lifting and it makes for enjoyable reading. keep us in the loop

                            Lively Up Yourself

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                            • GraemeG
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                              Chris Dickerson won Mr Olympia in 1982, at the age of 43, so you've still got time @TrickHell! 😃

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                              • JDelageJ
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                                I'm 46. I'm doing 3x3's now. I was getting tired of not being able to fit in anything but '55 cuts…

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                                • BoyoB
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                                  It all falls apart at age 49…

                                  Lively Up Yourself

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                                  • GraemeG
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                                    I've been having trouble with my back for a while, and had an X-ray before Christmas. It turns out that the problem is scoliosis, there's a slight bend in my spine.

                                    Anyway, I went to see a physio today, and he doesn't think that there's anything seriously wrong. A few exercises, a bit of stretching, and maybe correcting the form should fix it. That's good, and should allow me to lift heavier again. 🙂

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                                    • K
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                                      @TrickHell:

                                      Doing my last week of 5/3/1 before starting the 10,000 Kettlebell Swing Challenge. I've definitely gotten big and spent the last three months going super balls out on assistance, spending 2-3 hours at the gym every day. I have a solid base to work from and I know my weak points: upper chest and arms. My deadlift continues to be my weakest lift. My vanity projects for 2018 are mid / lower traps / rhombs and forearms. Streamlined my workout my picking on sticking points / weak spots and using supersets.

                                      I'll try to remember to get some final numbers for you guys after I finish up on the 31st.

                                      @TrickHell how are you approaching the 10k swing challenge? I did this last year, think I failed in changing the swing progression by the week. Some weeks were heavy single bell, some were lighter single arms. Good luck on it, takes a lot to stick with it.
                                      im catching up in this thread, so maybe the answer is down the line…
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                                      Other challenge you should check out after the 10k is working towards the simple/sinister. No idea what your baseline is, but for me its a long play, and similar to the 10k challenge in terms of sticking with it.

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                                        Nice work slashing the time, thats my biggest memory - some days time wasn't in my favor and i'd just try to sprint through the day and go lighter. No matter what you do its no joke, and its that 50 swing that is the kick in the ass…no matter how you get there, its always hard.

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                                        • GraemeG
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                                          We need to buy belts from Pioneer. 😃

                                          https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHmLacgaDV/

                                          Swipe right and watch the video.

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                                            I just read {glanced, really} through this entire thread, and I'm surprised there's no mention of shirts.

                                            I'm not a "big" guy by any means 5'-11", 185+/- lbs. I have a harder time fitting shirts than jeans. I prefer a more fitted, tailored fit for my clothes, even for denim-wear (which is all I ever wear). I really don't like boxy, baggy, over-sized clothes anymore. Work shirts are usually too boxy in the mid-section and waist, and why I prefer westerns for the slimmer body.

                                            What I never see mentioned in any discussions of shirts of any type (tees or L/S button front) is the proportion of shoulder-to-chest measurements. I find that most shirts' shoulders at the top of the sleeve seam are too narrow compared to the chest width at the arm pit. Extra shoulder width would do a lot for comfort and ease of motion without changing the body width.

                                            The best fitting shirts I have are The Flat Head westerns, in XL/44. The are cut like they are tailored specifically for me. Wide in the shoulders and chest, narrow in the waist, perfect length body and sleeves. If anything, the arms are a bit tight. It seems they don't work for most western guys though. Kyle, on SuFu, used to work for TFH in Japan some years ago, and he said Masa-san develops patterns cut for his own body, which even for a small Japanese man he has a large shoulder-to-waist ratio. Then the pattern is scaled up and down for other sizes. (Correct me if I'm wrong). However TFH does it, it works for me.

                                            The other shirts I've found that fit me well are Wranglers Retro and Western Cowboy Work cut. They're super cheap - in price and quality - but they fit me well. A L gives me more room in the shoulders and chest, but are too long in the body, so I wear a M.

                                            I wear an XL in IH westerns, and they are not ideal for me. I LOVE the styling, fabrics, details, etc. The chest and shoulders are tight, too wide in waist width, the body sometimes too long. Not including the collar button, the top 2 snaps pull outwards and the fabric looks distorted. Dean DelRay mention this too in his podcast interview w/ Giles. I need an XXL in the chest and shoulders, and a L everywhere else. I don't have an IH Work shirt, because the measurements look too wide in the waist and opening for me.

                                            First world problems, I know, LOL!  😛

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