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    • JDelageJ
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      If it were me I'd replace all the machines with squats 3x5 and/or leg mobility work.

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      • GraemeG
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        If you've got access to some decent dumbbells, you could always try the goblet squat.

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        • neph93N
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          @Graeme:

          If you've got access to some decent dumbbells, you could always try the goblet squat.

          Goblet squat is absolutely an option!

          @JDelage:

          If it were me I'd replace all the machines with squats 3x5 and/or leg mobility work.

          Leg press is the only machine I use. But this is certainly a good chance to get shot of it forever.

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          • tmgT
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            ^completely agree with @TrickHell you shouldn't be afraid of squatting to the limits of your mobility/skeletal mechanics. There's much higher risk to your knees from not doing so and only going to parallel since this doesn't make use of the stretch reflex action. It's been mentioned by others in this thread, but I'd highly recommend reading Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe, and/or watching his YouTube vids.

            Leg press machines are useful for bodybuilders but not so useful if you want to build functional strength and not compromise joint mobility. If you're squatting with proper form (and full depth) and on a good program for your specific goals then you shouldn't need to be doing leg presses, so I'm curious as to what you felt they were providing?

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            • neph93N
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              Just to be clear, I have nothing against going ATG or breaking parallel and I'm not a stranger to Rippetoe. But without boring you all with specifics about my body shape and injury history, my knees definitely don't like the concentric movement of a below parallel squat done with normal foot stance. They tackle breaking parallel in a front squat and they tackle ATG with an exaggerated wide stance/borderline sumo squat, as long as my feet are properly flared and my knees track over them.

              I'm going to keep on doing my regular Friday squat regardless. I've made great progress with it and it has done wonders for power, muscle growth and, in fact, my knees. The point was I guess, is a squat variation a useful substitute for the leg press. The consensus here seems to be it's actually an improvement. So I'm going to do straight sets (3x10) of wide stance deep squats on deadlift day, in addition to standard squats on squat day. My standard squat at the moment is 3x8 @ 140kg, so I guess 90-95kg (my bodyweight) would be a good place to start the wide stance, ATG variation?

              Either way, thanks for all the input guys.

              «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
              We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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              • spitfiredealerS
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                Bit late on this, but I do front squats and rate them much more than leg press. I do them after low bar squats, 5 sets of 10 reps.

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                • neph93N
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                  @neph93 that should be a good starting point for the wider stance…

                  Thanks for the advice. First day with the wide stance was yesterday. Did 90kg for 3x10 with my ass way below parallel. Felt good, but different for sure. Could really feel the work my hip joints and core muscles were doing. Looking forward to perfecting form and throwing on weights.

                  I made the mistake of starting hill sprints at the same time as I tried moving into a calorific surplus. I was eating about 2000 cal more a week and still lost a kilo [emoji28]

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                  We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                  • DrBabyhorseD
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                    @neph93:

                    @jvicente86:

                    @neph93 that should be a good starting point for the wider stance…

                    Thanks for the advice. First day with the wide stance was yesterday. Did 90kg for 3x10 with my ass way below parallel. Felt good, but different for sure. Could really feel the work my hip joints and core muscles were doing. Looking forward to perfecting form and throwing on weights.

                    I made the mistake of starting hill sprints at the same time as I tried moving into a calorific surplus. I was eating about 2000 cal more a week and still lost a kilo [emoji28]

                    I'm late to the party but +1 for ditching the leg press. Consider switching every other week between front squats and overhead squats

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                    • GraemeG
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                      @jvicente86 I'm feeling like a seven stone weakling in comparison! 😃

                      Just done my first proper arms session in weeks. I had a bursitis on my left elbow, and it's been really slow to heal up.

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                      • GraemeG
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                        I know that feeling too @jvicente86! I used to train with some powerlifters in Newcastle. One of them, Andy Thompson, was a UK heavyweight champion. He could bench 250 kg! :o

                        I've got a really bad shape for lifting heavy. I'm 6'3" with long arms and legs, and a short torso. My bench and squat suffer as a result.

                        Thanks for the compression cuffs recommendation. I'll look into them.

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                        • GilesG
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                          Sheeeeee-it…..

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          • DrBabyhorseD
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                            Solid! Nice work.

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                            • neph93N
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                              That last deadlift was badass. Great clip, thanks for sharing.

                              «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                              We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                              • tvenutoT
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                                9/9. Nice work.

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                                • spitfiredealerS
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                                  Nice work man. They are really decent lifts.

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                                    Very impressive! I wonder which Iron Heart bottoms fit your huge thighs.

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                                    • GilesG
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                                      IH-888S will release in August…..

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      • neph93N
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                                        @Giles:

                                        IH-888S will release in August…..

                                        Can't come soon enough.

                                        «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                        We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                        • tvenutoT
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                                          Indeed. I refuse to size up in the waist.

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                                          • neph93N
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                                            @tvenuto:

                                            Indeed. I refuse to size up in the waist.

                                            It's taken one pair of 301's and two pairs of 555's for me to reach that conclusion.  Which is why I'm stoked about these.

                                            «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                            We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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