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  • J
    JCMx800
    Raw and Unwashed
    Joined: 20 Sept 2012

    Yeah, coffee should taste like coffee.
    I was at a pretty hip spot in Hannover yesterday, the V17 and had some Rocko Mountain NATURAL (Ethiopia) and it tasted like strawberries and smelled like Glühwein, it was kinda cool but it was feckin tee and not coffee 😃

    You don´t need cool hardware (@finn666 your set-up is great, no dissing here) , you need some feckin COFFEE beans and hot water, the rest is up to you. I still use a Bialetti (2 cup), make 100ml Moka with 14g grinded beans (SCHWARZMAHLER - Pechschwarz or Heimat), add some hot water (without bubbles) and I have 250ml wonderful strong coffee in the morning 🙂

    Maybe I´ll buy an Aeropress + Hario 600ml server, could be my cup of coffee haha

    Les Paul -> ProCo Rat -> Super HardOn -> JCM800 Low Input
    XXX

    last edited by 2 Mar 2016, 11:17 3 Feb 2016, 10:43 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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      Snowy
      Joined: 15 Jun 2012

      Finn, on point :). Go the Hario Ceramic Coffee Mill Skerton. It's decent/good price point.

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        Snowy
        Joined: 15 Jun 2012

        tmadd@ agree with you 100%. With coffee going back to farms/plantations/weather conditions/processing conditions/roasting conditions (down to seconds and degrees, and how fast it cools!). It'd be like caring about the meters above sea level for cotton, what day of the year it was picked, how it was treated. Cotton, whilst it has variables in growing and post processing, has a lot less factors that impact the end result. A barista I know can taste the difference between the type of fertilizer used, with all other factors equal. He's a consultant on the side and can pick out 250 characteristics from seed to cup.

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          ChuckDenim
          Joined: 16 Mar 2011

          @Finn666
          I have the V60/1 for brewing up to 300ml and a Kalita wave for brewing up to 800ml.
          I would take the Kalita wave pot. It has the better waterflow. I switched from Hario to Kalita.
          If you want to go deeper into the coffee-thing, go for a OE LIDO 3: http://coffeehit.co.uk/lido-3-hand-coffee-grinder . It´s well built, fast, easy to use and delivers great results.
          Or you take a look at the Commandante C40 MK3 : http://www.amazon.de/COMANDANTE-NITRO-BLADE-Kaffeemühle-Stahl/dp/B019C9KFTU .

          last edited by 2 Jun 2016, 08:29 6 Feb 2016, 08:12 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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            Snowy
            Joined: 15 Jun 2012

            @ChuckDenim interesting RE: Kalita wave pot, how do you find the water flow/spout control? It looks pretty 'loose'/'wide' to me. Looks like water would fly out of it..would love to hear more here!

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              ChuckDenim
              Joined: 16 Mar 2011

              @Snowy With the Kalita you have more control and you can pour much slower with a even water flow. It fits perfect to the small V60.

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                Snowy
                Joined: 15 Jun 2012

                @ChuckDenim you're such an enabler :|. Will pick one up in a few months. Not sure how I can justify a 3rd pour over kettle in 2 years. Will find a way :). Thanks.

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                  Finn666
                  Joined: 20 Jan 2011

                  sounds good to me…though i have to say i really love the look of the hair kettle more than the kalita wave pot ^^
                  going to order soon...still on the look out for a nice grinder. thinking about going automatic with the vary "mahlkönig"...found one for "cheap" not the net.

                  last edited by 7 Feb 2016, 10:32 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    ChuckDenim
                    Joined: 16 Mar 2011

                    I would not go with a automatic grinder, because you can´t take it to travel. I own the Lido 3. First I tought the foldable handle and the case were useless, but now I´m so happy with it. I take the Lido everywhere, at work, to friends, to my mom and to travel, it´s with me. If I brew 600ml coffee, I take 38g beans. The Lido need 20 sec.

                    last edited by 7 Feb 2016, 20:33 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                      Snowy
                      Joined: 15 Jun 2012

                      +1 on Lido :).

                      last edited by 8 Feb 2016, 12:56 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        tmadd
                        Joined: 27 Oct 2010

                        I’ll add that I managed to write this post twice and delete it before successfully getting it posted.  I guess that’s proof-positive that I’m too long-winded, and punishment for it on the side.

                        @Snowy +1 on the Kalita Wave Kettle.  It’s a beautiful object in addition to being incredibly well designed for the work at hand.  I’ve poured with a fair share of kettles, including some heavily modified by their owners, and some of the most popular (and most esoteric) Japanese designs, prized by the most detail oriented hand pour devotees I’ve encountered, and for me the Kalita is head and shoulders above the rest.

                        Since starting to post in this thread, I’ve taken a good look at my home brewing setup, and it’s definitely started the gears turning:

                        • I need to upgrade the dual-purpose designed ceramic burrs in my Vario-W for the Ditting manufactured steel burrs that are optimized for brewed coffee.  They produce a more uniform grind particle size with significantly less fines, which is ideal for the way I like to brew.  Hopefully this will stave off my inclination to start looking at actual shop grinders.  Hopefully.
                        • I would probably have results I liked more if I moved from my Kalita Wave 185 to the much harder to find, more annoying to source filters for Kalita Wave 155.  The smaller brew bed would allow me achieve a much deeper brew bed at the same dose, allowing me to grind coarser, while still achieving longer brew times (and fuller extraction).  I can imagine that paired with the new burrs for my Vario, this could lead to easily and consistently brewing the tastiest coffee I’ve made at home in what is now a 10 year history of manual brewing at home!
                        • I’m super curious about the Bonavita BV1900TS, and suspect that it may also be a means for more consistently delicious coffee than I’ve been brewing at home.  Even if the result of experimenting with it is to realize that I just enjoy the ritual and feeling of manual brewing at home, I’d like to be better acquainted with an option that is totally viable for consumers that don’t want to get into the rigors of pour over brewing, but do want delicious coffee at home.  It seems like a Baratza Preciso/Jennings CJ-4000 (scale)/and Bonavita BV1900TS could be the ultimate straightforward home brewing rig for +/-$500, which might seem like a lot, but is an insane value if you drink coffee at home regularly (or would if you could easily get great results)
                        • I don’t travel enough (when I do, it’s invariably to a coffee city, and more often than not, I’m staying with coffee industry people) to justify a nice hand grinder, but you guys have definitely got me sweating a Lido 3 (I’ve always been enthralled by the OE Hand Grinders…very nearly pre-ordered a Pharos when it was announced years ago).  Perhaps my Lido-lust will be justified by my claims that this’ll be the summer that I get serious about 1 overnight bike camping trip per week!

                        "I'm doing this because it's fun" - Roy Slaper

                        last edited by 8 Feb 2016, 23:34 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                          Snowy
                          Joined: 15 Jun 2012

                          Thanks guys.

                          @tmadd I've been looking @ that style of brew as well. I enjoy the human element to it. Was (am?) tempted to get a semi-commercial one for work considering how much we brew there. Moccamaster is what I've been looking @ http://www.nordcoffee.com.au/about/products is where I've been looking.

                          I'll pick up a Kalita Wave Kettle in Japan in May ::). Don't tell Mrs Snowy it was planned tho 😉

                          last edited by 9 Feb 2016, 11:47 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                            tmadd
                            Joined: 27 Oct 2010

                            @Snowy The CDT Grand looks perfect for an office that brews a lot!  Brewing is fun, but sometimes for me it's a whole different arena than "wanting tasty coffee"  Fortunately, 99% of the time, my proximity to great coffee shops means not having to choose.

                            "I'm doing this because it's fun" - Roy Slaper

                            last edited by 10 Feb 2016, 16:57 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • J
                              JCMx800
                              Raw and Unwashed
                              Joined: 20 Sept 2012

                              Anyone has the Kalita Pelican Pot? Love the look and the material (Enamel) but don´t know if the flow is slow and steady enough…

                              EDIT: Ordered!

                              Les Paul -> ProCo Rat -> Super HardOn -> JCM800 Low Input
                              XXX

                              last edited by 16 May 2016, 11:03 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • AnesthetistA
                                Anesthetist
                                見習いボス
                                Joined: 14 May 2011

                                Today was a good day [emoji106]

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                                IG: bluehandsslim

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                                • J
                                  JCMx800
                                  Raw and Unwashed
                                  Joined: 20 Sept 2012

                                  Just waitin for the DHL Dude  ::) ::)

                                  I have the same mill, and it´s good, I like it very much. Took some time to understand to find the right grind-level, but now I am a pro haha

                                  Les Paul -> ProCo Rat -> Super HardOn -> JCM800 Low Input
                                  XXX

                                  last edited by 20 May 2016, 09:07 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • S
                                    Snowy
                                    Joined: 15 Jun 2012

                                    Nice one ane. I should have some goods to add tomorrow as well. I went fairly nuts in Japan :|. Bought FAR more than I possibly could need, but not sure when I'll be back again and it was about 30-40% cheaper…

                                    last edited by 20 May 2016, 14:35 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • EngineerE
                                      Engineer
                                      Joined: 22 Apr 2015

                                      @Anesthetist Heck yeah, that's a good day!!!

                                      last edited by 20 May 2016, 14:38 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • AnesthetistA
                                        Anesthetist
                                        見習いボス
                                        Joined: 14 May 2011

                                        Thanks Snowy and Engineer. I was able to use both toys today and had great results. I think I still prefer a V60 for a single cup, but now have a means of pouring a couple at a time [emoji106]
                                        JCM, the grinder is awesome but there is definitely a little learning curve to to it to getting the perfect consistency.

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                                        IG: bluehandsslim

                                        last edited by 21 May 2016, 02:28 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          Snowy
                                          Joined: 15 Jun 2012

                                          Yeah the Chemex is a very different taste/profile to V60. Chemex is a lighter/less bodied cup. It often gets called a 'cleaner' cup. Less oils make it through, what you're really left with is the taste of the beans without any of the other influences that can help mask or bring flavours out. If I drink the same beans in V60 and Chemex I get 2 totally different views on the same bean. Some work better in 1 brew method vs another. Kenyan coffees (going from memory here) are usually heavy bodied and don't translate as well on Chemex for instance…

                                          last edited by 21 May 2016, 02:42 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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