Coffee

[Snowy]

@tmadd, highly recommend the Lido 2 (which is now superseded by Lido 3). Bit cheaper than an EK-43 too :). Buil d quality of the Lido3 is extremely on point. Perfect quality for an IH wearer :).

[Snowy]

Thanks for the recommendations! Tomorrow is my last day off in the city. Will see which 1 2 I can hit up. Hopefully!!

Espresso Vivace - I've walked past that place so many times and nearly gone it, but not seen enough filter vibes from the door to go in. Tomorrow that changes!

[tmadd]

@snowy espresso Vivace is espresso and blend only. I recommend a nico or if you're feeling more traditional a cappuccino.  Schomer's (the owner) book is fascinating.

[Anesthetist]

Thank you @tmadd and @Snowy for the advice. I'm going to price the two grinders out and see if I can find one local to get a feel for it. I feel this is the next step to making a better cup!

[veloaudio]

The Lido 3 looks nice. I have a Hario hand grinder that I use daily and I'm looking for a travel setup. I'm wondering if I could use Lido 3 for both home and travel.

@snowy would you travel with a Lido 2?

[Snowy]

@veloaudio the Lido's are sturdy enough to travel with. I'd say probably a bit heavy. And probably a bit large to lug as luggage tho. I have a porlex mini for travel. If I was traveling with Chemex/v60 I'd probably bring the Lido :).

[veloaudio]

Thanks. I had been eyeing the mini Porlex but the Lido 3 advertised as an travel" Lido through me off.

[Snowy]

Just read up on the 3. Looks like it is aimed at travel. Meant to be lighter than the 2. Turns out it weights 1/4 of the Lido 2. Sounds perfect for travel!!

[veloaudio]

Weight is fine, but the 13.5" tall concerns me for packing.

[Finn666]

so guys…i think i have enough of senseo coffee (unbelievable that i even call it coffee) and the aero press i own is ok for when it´s just me, myself and i who wants to enjoy a single cup of coffee.

now i´m looking into something else. something that can make/hold 3-4 (or more) cups of coffee at a time.

what kinda setup would you guys go for in the end?

@Snowy i´ve spent last night by checking out your youtube channel…some great reviews on there. may go and order the sump coffee as well the next time ^^ ...though i haven´t understand the last sentence you were saying. not sure if it even was english you´ve used?!

[Snowy]

Finn I'd go a v60 size 2, with range server size 2. Not badly priced, high consistency, makes 700ml in a few mins.

[tmadd]

@Finn666 I'm really liking Kalita Wave for brews of 40g coffee/640g water.  Both the Hario V60 and the Kalita Wave are pretty grinder dependent and way easier to get tasty results if you have a nice easy to control pouring kettle, but I find that the more uniform brewbed of the Kalita yields more even extraction, and consistently tasty cups.  I will say that the V60 does allow a little more control of brew variables since you can alter the flow rate a lot more with your pouring style than you can with the Kalita, but I still think the Kalita is tastier (unless you're stuck with a real bad grinder, perhaps).

[Finn666]

thanks for getting back guys…what do you guys think about the chemed woodneck? @Snowy  @tmadd

[Snowy]

I'd skip the Chemex to start with. It's fairly fiddly, not cheap either. Kalita is a good choice, only reason I'd not suggest that is slightly higher $, and volume is a bit more fiddly to get 700mls from. It's got a smaller volume, requires more topping up. That said for taste, I feel it's a step above the v60. V60 or kalita wave. Can't go wrong.

[Finn666]

just checking amazon as i type

would need a new kettle and a new/better grinder as well i´m afraid. ^^

[tmadd]

@Finn666 That's the thing about most coffee brewing recommendations, they assume a lot of variables as a constant that might not be.  While it appears that @Snowy and I see eye to eye for our own brewing preferences, I know he's got a great grinder + is using very good beans, and I'm assuming that he's brewing with a scale, has some reliable form of temperature control (or at least a boiling/pouring method that delivers a consistent temperature), and is using a dedicated pouring kettle…all things that factor heavily into my own personal preferences for brewing device.

While I agree that the Chemex is finicky compared to the other two with all else optimal...I actually think it's the best of the 3-options for a setup that isn't fully optimized.  Though I haven't experimented with it for awhile, and it lacks the sex-appeal of the other 3 options at hand, the Abid Clever Brewer is pretty capable, and it's ability to control dwell time is friendly to a winder range of grinders, plus it obviates the need for a dedicated pouring kettle.  Check it out: https://prima-coffee.com/equipment/abid/clever

[Snowy]

I've never had a disaster with Kalita or v60. I've had some total shockers with a Chemex.

Finn, I thought you already had a kettle for some reason. Yes, you'll need one of those, and a grinder :). Kettle is a 1-off. Grinder you can work to incrementally, or jump right into the deep end of it…..

tmadd, yes I use scales. On weekends for Chemex :). During the week I eye ball it with a Kalita. It's pretty consistent naturally and I've got an okay read on it to get a great profile out most mornings without too much care...

[Finn666]

ok, so here´s what i´ll get i think…

…now i´m just not sure about which grinder to get :-\ ...way too many things and variations out there

[grandmasterben]

What's the harder world to understand… denim or coffee?

[Giles]

Coffee is a complete fucking mystery to me.  I can go miles out of my way to have a coffee at a highly recommended hipster joint or have coffee made with all the paraphernalia @finn is buying and had the brew timed to the nano-bleeding-second and the water heated to the correct temperature (to 76 decimal places) by the guy making it with his iphone.  And it still just tastes like a good drinkable coffee to me.

Luckily my lack of sophistication (hipness?) in this regard is also so the same with wine.  And that DOES save me a fucking fortune….