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    • PSBP
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      Reviving this old thread because I just ordered this book that I learned about from the Heddels Instagram account:

      I was trying to explain my affinity for Japanese-made denim to a friend and as I was telling him that Japanese brands were making incredible vintage American-style workwear, he asked why. I really didn't have an answer. Maybe I will after reading this.

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      • GilesG
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        Thank you.  Just ordered….

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        • Megatron1505M
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          I have it incoming too…..

          Btw, book tip for anyone who loves Japan. "The Roads To Sata" by Alan Booth, it's written by an English man who lived in Japan and walked from from the Northern tip of Hokkaido down to the Southern tip of Kyushu. Great read.

          Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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          • ChrisC
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            @PSB:

            I'm 150 pages in…

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            • PSBP
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              @Chris - how is it? Worth the purchase?

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              • ChrisC
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                Kinda early to say.  So far, it focuses less on the workwear segment of men's clothing (which is what I sort of assumed it would cover) and more on the broader concept of creating a sense of fashion for men and a consumer culture in post-war Japan.  It's examined a couple of trends in the 50s and 60s and how they reflected broader cultural changes, which is interesting, but not exactly what I expected.

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                • PSBP
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                  I see. I assumed it was about the workwear aspect as well. I hope that is examined at some point, but I'm interested in reading it regardless. Thanks for the info.

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                  • Megatron1505M
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                    I just read the GQ interview with the author of Ametora, and he talks about the importance of the brand "A Bathing Ape". It always annoys me when people downplay or mock the influence of Bape on everything we love about Japanese clothing, it wasn't always camo hoodies and Nike rip offs.

                    Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                    • dylantbmayesD
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                      Does the author elaborate on the brands importance?

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                      • Megatron1505M
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                        He says that a lot of things started with Bathing Ape when referencing Japanese clothing impacting popular American culture.

                        Most folks just remember camo and Kanye, but that all came years after Bathing Ape started to impact popular culture.

                        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                        • dylantbmayesD
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                          Unfortunately the author (in that instance) seems to be referencing the Kanye years, the early 2000's, when BAPE opened in NY.

                          You sparked my interest for a moment there, thinking he would elaborate on the influences American culture had on NIGO in the early 90's and then the subsequent influence BAPE had in America…

                          Perhaps he will touch on that in the book.

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                          • GraemeG
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                            These days BAPE is all about gold Rolexes…

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                            • ChrisC
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                              @dylantbmayes:

                              thinking he would elaborate on the influences American culture had on NIGO in the early 90's and then the subsequent influence BAPE had in America…

                              Perhaps he will touch on that in the book.

                              He did.  Bape was covered largely to show the rise of natively developed Japanese fashion influence, both domestically and globally.  It marked a change in that Japanese fashion was developed with no significant basis in American or European fashion, (unlike most previous American rooted trends) and intended for Japanese consumers (unlike previous Japanese designers like Miyake and Yamamoto, who hit first in Europe).

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                              • louisboscoL
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                                im in japan, reckon i could find that anywhere?

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                                • Megatron1505M
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                                  I just have fond memories of the old days when the first UK exposure to Bape was through Ian Brown and UNKLE. Back then Bape, Wtaps and Neighborhood were making really cool street wear…..then Kanye happened and Nigo went a bit nuts.

                                  Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                  • dylantbmayesD
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                                    Thanks, @Chris!

                                    I can now see what you mean when you say not what you expected…

                                    Do you think the book covers too broad a scope?

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                                    • ChrisC
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                                      I don't think so.  It's a reasonably quick read, and while it doesn't go into exhaustive detail, that's not really the book's intent.  It's for mass consumption by normal people, not a scholarly treatise for fashion historians.  I'm not sure narrowing the focus and increasing the depth of detail would make for a better book.

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                                      • S
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                                        picked up the kindle edition just now. Thanks for the share!

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                                        • David_pllD
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                                          Also have this on its way to me, looking forward to reading it.

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                                          • ChrisC
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                                            @Snowy:

                                            picked up the kindle edition just now.

                                            I have the Kindle version, too.  Just a quick warning- it has some minor formatting issues; nothing really serious, but mildly annoying.

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