• Home
  • Recent
  • Calendar
  • Register
  • Login
  • Home
  • Recent
  • Calendar
  • Register
  • Login
Iron Heart Forum
Iron Heart Forum

Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Collection Preview - Now Live

IH-634 - Non Selvedge 21oz Indigo Straight Cut Jean

Bottoms
26
57
22.5k
Loading More Posts
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • G
    Giles
    IHUK Crew
    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

    IH-634 - Non Selvedge 21oz Indigo Straight Cut Jean

    We thought it was about time we offered the non selvedge versions of our classic 634 straight cut.  We did sell them when we very first started doing business outside of Japan and then for reasons lost in the mists of time, we stopped.

    As a designer/patterner, one has much more scope to make a flattering cut with non selvedge.  With selvedge, you have to have a straight side seam.  With non selvedge you don't.  So on the 634 and 461, the side seam is curved to be more flattering.  The non selvedge 21oz denim is woven on a projectile loom at extremely high tension (much higher than a shuttle loom can weave at) and is treated with resin before we cut and sew, this makes them, more hard wearing, more wind proof,  more waterproof and prevents flapping at the cuff when riding.

    30-34, 36, 38 & 40

    USD275

    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

    last edited by 11 Apr 2015, 04:14 23 Oct 2015, 12:13 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
    • G
      Giles
      IHUK Crew
      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

      last edited by 23 Oct 2015, 12:18 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • G
        Giles
        IHUK Crew
        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

        Sam wears 30…

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

        last edited by 23 Oct 2015, 12:19 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • G
          Giles
          IHUK Crew
          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

          NOW LIVE

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

          last edited by 23 Oct 2015, 12:27 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • B
            BloodnThunder
            Raw and Unwashed
            Joined: 20 May 2015

            I suppose to save $40.  Or just to go against the grain a bit and have a non-selvedge premium jean.

            I might just be making it up but the pictures of the non-selvedge denim look slightly less inky than the selvedge pics of the same denim.

            IG: Shadesofindig0

            last edited by 3 Nov 2015, 20:00 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • A
              Anesthetist
              見習いボス
              Joined: 14 May 2011

              @TrickHell:

              I didn't know if there was a cult of "no selvedge, please," like there's a cult of raw denim or what the deal was. If you're stacking instead of cuffing it doesn't really make much of a difference anyway, unless you're a railroad track fade addict.

              It's a very different denim. My 1634 were even softer than my 633s out of the box. This denim drapes well and wears very hard. I like my 1634 and wear them when I need a break from my 633s. I don't care that they aren't selvedge and I even wear them with a cuff. At this level of quality, selvedge doesn't matter to me. I'd be happy to take pics if you want a comparison.

              Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

              IG: bluehandsslim

              last edited by 3 Nov 2015, 20:33 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • A
                Anesthetist
                見習いボス
                Joined: 14 May 2011

                Btw Sam, your fit is perfect! Well done.

                Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                IG: bluehandsslim

                last edited by 3 Nov 2015, 20:34 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • A
                  Appfaff
                  Raw and Unwashed
                  Joined: 11 Oct 2013

                  I remember scrolling through the 634 and 461 threads a while back and seeing a lot of posts from people asking Giles to source some of the Non-Selvedge versions for them. I can't remember if it is because they are the true-OG styles from IH or not, but G has mentioned a bunch of times that H-San doesn't really care if it's Selvedge or not. I've seen some super beat up pairs of the Non-S 634s and they are crazy awesome. Also, the sizing is very different than the Selvedge versions so maybe it will help some people find their perfect pair.

                  edited saw earlier post lol

                  last edited by 3 Nov 2015, 20:35 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • G
                    Giles
                    IHUK Crew
                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                    I need to update the product pages with some more info when I have time.

                    As a designer/patterner, you have much more scope to make a flattering cut with non selvedge.  With selvedge, you have to have a straight side seam.  With non selvedge you don't.  So on the 634 and 461, the side seam is curved to be more flattering.  The non selvedge 21oz denim is woven on a projectile loom at extremely high tension (much higher than a shuttle loom can weave at) and is treated with resin before we cut and sew, this makes them, more hard wearing, more wind proof,  more waterproof and prevents flapping at the cuff when riding.

                    And they are cheaper…..

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                    last edited by 11 Apr 2015, 04:13 4 Nov 2015, 01:19 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • A
                      Appfaff
                      Raw and Unwashed
                      Joined: 11 Oct 2013

                      So that's why the Non-S 461 keep grabbing my eye 🙂

                      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                      last edited by 4 Nov 2015, 03:54 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • G
                        Giles
                        IHUK Crew
                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                        The next production run of these will have zippers instead of buttons….

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                        last edited by 4 Nov 2015, 04:48 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • A
                          Anesthetist
                          見習いボス
                          Joined: 14 May 2011

                          @Giles:

                          The next production run of these will have zippers instead of buttons….

                          [emoji107][emoji107][emoji107] buttons all the way!

                          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                          IG: bluehandsslim

                          last edited by 4 Nov 2015, 21:33 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • A
                            Appfaff
                            Raw and Unwashed
                            Joined: 11 Oct 2013

                            I believe it is decided… My next pair will be these - now if only people in my size would stop buying ALL the 634 - in every denim! Haha

                            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                            last edited by 11 May 2015, 04:15 5 Nov 2015, 04:08 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • FinksterF
                              Finkster
                              見習いボス
                              Joined: 14 Mar 2013

                              @Anesthetist:

                              @Giles:

                              The next production run of these will have zippers instead of buttons….

                              [emoji107][emoji107][emoji107] buttons all the way!

                              Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                              No problem with zippers .. but with 'non selvedge'  😉

                              last edited by 5 Nov 2015, 06:57 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • SamS
                                Sam
                                Joined: 21 May 2015

                                I don't think this has been mentioned yet and i'll probably get a telling off by the real fade fanatics but because they are coated with resin they don't fade as quickly. I think that can be a good thing if you wanted to have a pair for "smarter" occasions. But like Giles says its really been designed for riding in mind. I'm thinking these would be perfect for the winter months of you're an all year round rider like myself.

                                The quality of the denim and the colour is amazing though… definitely not one to be sniffed at.

                                Insta - @braveinthefaceoflasers

                                last edited by 5 Nov 2015, 11:52 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • A
                                  Appfaff
                                  Raw and Unwashed
                                  Joined: 11 Oct 2013

                                  @Giles or @Sam, correct me if I'm wrong, but the Non-Selvedge version of the 21oz fabric is the same used on the Indigo Rider's jackets - Based on how amazing the jacket on this page ( half way down - http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=171.30), these jeans will "eventually" look beyond amazing.  Plus, Ive seen some really "washed out" pairs of jeans on H-San's IG account, im guessing that's how these look after years of consistant wear. Def worth something to look into for those wanting some variety! I always wanted the basic 21oz denim - so once a 36 is back in stock in these, I'll try to snag.

                                  last edited by 5 Nov 2015, 13:59 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • SamS
                                    Sam
                                    Joined: 21 May 2015

                                    Giles is flying home as we speak but i believe you are correct @Appfaff

                                    Insta - @braveinthefaceoflasers

                                    last edited by 5 Nov 2015, 14:09 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • G
                                      Giles
                                      IHUK Crew
                                      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                      Same denim as the IH-527J….

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                                      last edited by 5 Nov 2015, 18:27 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • A
                                        Appfaff
                                        Raw and Unwashed
                                        Joined: 11 Oct 2013

                                        Thanks Giles. Should be awesome for those willing to take the plunge!

                                        last edited by 5 Nov 2015, 18:43 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • A
                                          Anesthetist
                                          見習いボス
                                          Joined: 14 May 2011

                                          This denim seems similar to the original IH 21oz. I met up with my buddy Doug and we compared his deadstock OG Freebees to my 1634 (same loom as the nonselvedge 634 but black).
                                          For anyone interested:

                                          Bottom line, this denim is legit.

                                          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                                          IG: bluehandsslim

                                          last edited by 5 Nov 2015, 20:45 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          Copyright Iron Heart 2025.