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      davito
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      @Finkster  bro there are aficionados and authentic guys, as well as makers who swear on the tea core. and on the other hand some dont like it due to the faster and vintage like evolution. Like you I dont really bother the jacket itself is Killer

      Cheers,
      David

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        MP
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        Thanks davito and Qinhan for the feedback and photos, it sure is a sweet jacket and yours look amazing.  I am torn between the two versions now actually, if it is a slower evo then I'd love it, I just don't want that really fast fade where it looks like the black is flaking off.

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          grandmasterben
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          Mp, I think you should stick with tea core. It's a more dynamic leather and, like qinhan has noted, it seems like rmc's leather takes a long time to evo appreciably. I've seen pics of what looks like a very well worn one and you can tell that the tea core did not come easy, it all looks really natural.

          Himel might use shinki too but it doesn't mean the leather is the same. I think wouldn't buy his j100 because from what I've seen the brown comes in way too soon and intensely, but I will definitely get a tea core j100 from Rmc!

          Congrats on the jacket! You guys, right when I've stopped thinking about the j100 you put it back in my mind…damn

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            davito
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            Don't stop thinking 🙂 @grandmasterben  hehehe

            Cheers,
            David

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              Qinhan
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              @MP:

              Thanks davito and Qinhan for the feedback and photos, it sure is a sweet jacket and yours look amazing.  I am torn between the two versions now actually, if it is a slower evo then I'd love it, I just don't want that really fast fade where it looks like the black is flaking off.

              For reference, you might want to check out the following link which shows an RMC J-100 that has been worn for 4 years:

              http://www.realmccoys.co.jp/blog/shop/2011/04/blog-53.html

              IMHO, he would have had to really beat the jacket up to get that sort of evo happening.  It's not a delicate jacket and, as I said, I've had very little obvious evo in the time I've had mine.  Whichever version you choose you can't go wrong as it's a classic design and style.

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                Broark
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                Damn, now I really want a J100, that tea core leather looks incredible.
                Is the J100 that BiG stocks tea core? A bit hard to tell. Definitely an investment jacket but well worth it.

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                  Qinhan
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                  @Broark:

                  Damn, now I really want a J100, that tea core leather looks incredible.
                  Is the J100 that BiG stocks tea core? A bit hard to tell. Definitely an investment jacket but well worth it.

                  Yes, they are tea core.  You can tell from the zipper pulls (see the photo I posted above).

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                    Broark
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                    Thanks for the confirmation Qihan, that's what I was thinking too!
                    Gotta start pinching those pennies. 😛

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                      MP
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                      That's a great link, thanks Qinhan, exactly the comparison I wanted to see.  I'd seen a few older ones but most of the ones but never side by side like that.

                      I was worried it might end up like this too quickly…


                      This I believe is a 1950's jacket, not Shinki, just used for illustration purposes 🙂

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                        Qinhan
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                        You'd have to abuse the crap out of your jacket over many years to get that sort of effect!  Remember, these things are well built and sturdy.  Unless you really abuse it you're not going to get anything like that sort of evo happening.

                        As you say, the link on the previous page also shows the aging of the deep black leather which provides a useful comparison to the tea core.  Personally, I think the tea core looks much better over time but to each his own.

                        For some more tasty evo goodness, you should also check this link out too (scroll down to the bottom of the page):

                        http://nylon.m030090040.mediawars.net/blog/2011/08/the-real-mccoys-buco-j-100-dark.html

                        Judging from the aging patterns on that jacket, I suspect that they might have tried to speed up the evo deliberately.

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                          grandmasterben
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                          I love how rich the brown parts are, but don't think it looks too good since I too think it was speeded up.

                          Naturally, it's killer!

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                            Qinhan
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                            Agreed.  Natural evo looks best.

                            Gratuitous fit pics:

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                              grandmasterben
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                              Gratuitous fit pics are never bad when it comes to buco j100s, but we need some new ones 😉

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                                davito
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                                About two weeks ago or so

                                Cheers,
                                David

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                                  MP
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                                  Great shots Qinhan and Davito!
                                  Those evo pics at the bottom of the last link were the ones that put me off the teacore a bit actually, they do look a bit artificial, kind of reminded me of pre-distressed jackets or jeans.

                                  I'm pretty happy with the fit of mine, this is a 44.  Arms could be an inch longer, but I'm perfectly happy with them where they are too.  I'll hear back later today what my options are and will decide from there what's happening with the 031 vs 030…

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                                    grandmasterben
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                                    Fuck! Those are both perfect-fitting. Collar looks a tad stiff/large compared to your neck, but it'll probably lay down flat once you get some wear.

                                    How's the leather? I wish I could remember how rmc's felt back at Inspiration, but when they're all in front of you you're distracted and forget to take a mental note!

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                                      @grandmasterben:

                                      Fuck! Those are both perfect-fitting.

                                      Word!

                                      Enjoy ya addiction!

                                      AE

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                                        MP
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                                        Thanks 🙂  I agree on the collar, whichever jacket I end up keeping will get a bit of collar massaging to make it sit a bit more relaxed.

                                        The leather is something special, the grain is beautiful right out of the gate, and it is not a particularly shiny finish, which I prefer.  It is lighter than most of my other jackets (Vanson comp weight, Aero FQHH, Langlitz mid-weight cow etc), but it is of similar thickness and feel to a Bill Kelso A2 I've got (I think that one is veg tanned Italian horsehide).
                                        It still feels substantial, but it is nice to have a jacket that isn't such a tank actually. 
                                        I read that Shinki roll some of their leathers, especially for the RMC A2's, but this still has lovely grain and is as far from smooth plasticky leather as you'll get.

                                        Oh, and the smell is incredible! It's a toss-up as to whether Horween Chromexcel or Shinki gets the prize here, but it's pretty sensational 🙂

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                                          Finkster
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                                          Interesting discuss ….. now I'm infected from this jacket - Thanks guys!  😃

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                                            Went to RMC Tokyo store today after work to find a comfortable pants for this coming hot season and I ended up with this navy double knee work pants and more…

                                            MP14032 (non-wash version)

                                            Buco engineer! Can no longer resist the temptations from those great pics posted here. Hehe!!

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