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    Self Edge x Iron Heart = SEXIH22-301s

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      30 waist, 11.3 thigh, not sure what the front rise is . Someone suggest a pair with similar leg opening but a realistic amount of thigh room.

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        twin
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        Looking good Private eyes 🙂 🙂

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          30 waist, 11.3 thigh, not sure what the front rise is . Someone suggest a pair with similar leg opening but a realistic amount of thigh room.

          Consider the 634. It will have more thigh room. A couple of the 666 variations have 11.5" thigh in your size, so +0.2" over what you have now. The 666-19L actually has less thigh however. I haven't looked much at the 555. If you like the 301, the 555 might be closer.  The 634 will not have the same leg opening.

          They look fine on you but I realize the feel of a fit is very personal.

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          • riffblaster generalR
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            The 555 is way tighter in the thigh. Try the 633

            PUT DOWN THAT STARBUCKS, PICK UP THAT GNARBUCKS!!

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              1955 also on the cards too

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              • AnesthetistA
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                @riffblaster:

                The 555 is way tighter in the thigh. Try the 633

                633 is the best of both worlds, roomy thigh with a narrow ankle.

                IG: bluehandsslim

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                  30 waist, 11.3 thigh, not sure what the front rise is . Someone suggest a pair with similar leg opening but a realistic amount of thigh room.

                  I am shocked that people need more thigh room - I gotta hit the gym or something!  I sized down AND had RCFG re-taper it for me (I know, I know - blasphemy - I'm sorry!)  Different strokes for different folk, I guess.  (Fortunately, with the size-down, there is now an appropriate amount of room in the crotch) - a problem when I had the 30 on.

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                  • Jordonf9J
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                    I am in HIGH chance of getting a pair of these. It would be the first unsanforized pair of jeans I ever got. I really want a heavier unsanforized pair and these seem to be the ticket, and with almost perfect cut. This will also be the most expensive piece of clothing ever, that is why I am a little hesitant.

                    I have a pair of 3sixteen shadow selvedge slim taper and love them! My mind works that I need to know the quality for the price. I know I hear nothing but great things about certain brands. So what makes this pair about 170 worth more than my 14.5oz pair? I am not trying to start anything, just want to be schooled a little. I will guess its all the little details that add up.

                    I must ask, how long you think these will last with heavy use? If I could get a serious 5 years of hard use, I will have no problem throwing down.

                    Love the pics everyone has up, the fades look promising. These easy or hard to fade for most?

                    I am also thinking if I go through with it, with initial wash I would do them luke warm and very hot soak for my waist and opening. I like my openings at like 8", I would be size 38, I am a larger guy, 6'1" at about 220lbs. And sorry I am all over the place typing this post up.

                    Thanks guys!

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                    • Max PowerM
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                      ^sorry, nobody can tell you wether they will last you 5 years or less, as we don't know what you do in them. Have a look in the HWDC - there are pairs falling apart after 1 year, others look pretty much new. IH is known for perfect fabrication and material, so there are no flaws to be expected. But it comes down to fit, washing Routine, occupation etc. when we speak of durability.

                      It's also hard to tell wether they're worth more than your 3 sixteens. They will be an awesome pair and you'll be able to tell the difference to all your other Jeans before by just receiving the heavy package. The rest is up to you to decide.

                      @elclintor:

                      > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                      • GilesG
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                        What MP said…..

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        • seanoconoS
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                          Well said, Max Power.

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                          • FergzF
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                            Yeah, touch and feel a pair if you can. This tactile interaction alone will underpin the kind of quality that IH is rightly renowned for. As above, if you're going to be sandblasting buildings, skateboarding from dawn to dusk and spending your weekends ducking and rolling from speeding vehicles then don't expect them to last five years. My first pair of IH jeans are well and truly alive with normal wear after three years (though Nem in possession now) but my 666s are two and a half years old, well faded but lots of life left in them. Odds are if you get a pair you'll pretty much wear them most of the week. At cost per wear the value will speak for itself. Value and cheap are two completely different words that are, usually, mutually exclusive.

                            "Better to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission"

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                            • Jordonf9J
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                              All true. I am just waiting on Self Edge to open and get back to me on the backrise of the size 38. If it is tall enough, I will be buying…99% positive.

                              Guessing once soaked the jeans will be about 22oz then? My legs won't like me for a while.

                              Anyone know where the cotton comes from in America? Guessing they import the american cotton to Japan to make the fabric? And everything is done in Japan then?

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                              • GilesG
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                                @Jordonf9:

                                Anyone know where the cotton comes from in America?

                                No, we don't consider it important as long as it does what it is supposed to

                                @Jordonf9:

                                Guessing they import the american cotton to Japan to make the fabric? And everything is done in Japan then?

                                We import the cotton and everything else including making the yarn is done in Kojima

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                • Jordonf9J
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                                  I have no problem paying for quality. That is what we sell our business on, plus a lot more(nothing in regards to the fabric industry).

                                  Here is a really good question, for me…how are the pocket size? I like to carry quite a bit of stuff and like to have room without feeling like I am being jabbed to death due to the seat being way too tight. Anyone know how wide and deep the 5th pocket is?

                                  I am glad to see one forum that is up to date with a good forum family that posts daily. Glad to be here!

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                                  • Megatron1505M
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                                    I always find IH pockets are more than ample size and I carry my phone, keys, loose change, lighter, wallet at the back and other assorted rubbish.

                                    Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                    • Jordonf9J
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                                      Got word, back rise is 15". I am guessing with shrinkage maybe about 14.6" or so after soak. Almost an inch less than my current jeans and front rise will be a little over an inch shorter. Hmmm….That is low rise for me,haha. Hate not being able to try them on, at all.

                                      I hate bending down and my ass showing. Plus CC, so the ability to keep my tops up higher is nice. Decisions....hmmmm

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                                        Imo usually you get some rise back when they stretch out in the waist

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                                        • Jordonf9J
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                                          Talked to SENY and got the gentleman to measure. 11FR, 15BR, I could probably live with. But the opening is 8.75" which is a bit too big for my taste. 8" is PERFECT for my boots, 7.75 is nice too, 8.25 is probably livable with. I was hoping to hear 8.5, then assume shrinkage could take up about .25"

                                          Does anyone have size 38 here? Or anyone with 34-36 and see what their opening is, to compare. Thanks

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                                          • SeulS
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                                            If you're used to, and like a high back- and frontrise, then do not go down a full inch there… Trust me... I can't even manage 0.5" lower a rise...

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