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      Maynard Friedman
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      This is why it's important to:
      A) Get an interesting, creative job so you don't have to bother with all that lean, six sigma stuff (or have to pretend you're interested) OR
      😎 Become senior enough that you can delegate it all to someone else

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        Snowy
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        @Maynard:

        This is why it's important to:
        A) Get an interesting to bother with all that lean, six sigma stuff
        😎 Become senior enough that you can delegate it all to someone else

        Pretty much where I'm at getting to. I love it! 🙂 (Combo of the A&B)

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          As someone who has a manufacturing job, and deals with several production tracking systems on a daily. I'm left wondering what twisted mind would study these for leisure? The knowledge acquired for my day job is far more exciting and we're talking about insurance regulations there. You have to have a peculiar sense of entertainment Snowy. lol

          Bourbon: because living in Kentucky just makes you want to drink

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            bubbapest
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            @mclaincausey:

            I disagree with bubbapest, they'll think you're lazy if you ask about workload at an informal chat IMO. I think chris nailed it. I always ask the interviewer questions. Like how long they've been there, for example. If they've been there a while, it speaks well for the business, and I tell them so.

            they're asking him in.  he holds all the cards.  take care of megatron first.  he's already got a job.  as long as he knows his stuff (seems like he does), and doesn't offend anyone, he's got a supreme upper hand.  if work life balance is important and they will work him 100 hours a week, why waste time?

            just because its informal doesnt mean its not an interview… what is your work life balance is 100% valid question to ask at any stage.

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            • steelworkerS
              steelworker
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              @Giles:

              wtf

              lol wtf is right

              Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
              Well, I have others.

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              • mclaincauseyM
                mclaincausey
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                Yeah I wouldn't do it. And as a hiring manager I would take a dim view of such a question. But I did like everything else you suggested.

                You can sort of triangulate that kind of info by asking more oblique questions about company culture.

                Think it, be it.

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                • steelworkerS
                  steelworker
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                  @Megatron1505:

                  Resurrection…

                  On Friday of this week I have an "informal" interview for a senior management position in a local engineering company, and I am shitting myself.

                  I have been with my current employer for 17 years and never really considered leaving, but this new position is with a smaller firm, pays £10'000 a year more than I currently earn, and is literally 2 minutes walk from my front door.

                  So do I go for it? it has been described to me as an informal chat to see the working environment so how smartly should I dress? How do I not fuck it up?

                  First interview in 17 years, I'm a little rusty on such things  :-\

                  Good luck Mega.

                  Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                  Well, I have others.

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                  • Megatron1505M
                    Megatron1505
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                    This outpouring of stellar advice, well wishes, and shirts of a questionable sexual orientation has been great guys, thank you  🙂

                    Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                      davito
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                      good luck Gav @Megatron1505

                      @urbanwoodsman:

                      I guess he could get this one for cheaper.
                      http://www.ebay.com/itm/NWT-Gitman-Vintage-Boy-Scout-Shirt-Size-XXL-/291349152697?pt=US_CSA_MC_Shirts&hash=item43d5c343b9

                      hahahaha 🙂 🙂 awesome  😘 haha  😉  😞  😃

                      thx [url=http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3599]@urbanwoodsman such a great laugh, thank you  😉 😉

                      Cheers,
                      David

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                      • FergzF
                        Fergz
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                        Here's a great question to ask:

                        "Better to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission"

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                          bubbapest
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                          @mclaincausey:

                          Yeah I wouldn't do it. And as a hiring manager I would take a dim view of such a question. But I did like everything else you suggested.

                          You can sort of triangulate that kind of info by asking more oblique questions about company culture.

                          agree to disagree, i guess. i graduated from a big ten business school and we were taught to ask this question if you wanted to know what the expectations were.  also, i used it while applying for my current position which is a financial software developer at a highly respected financial institution.

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                          • mclaincauseyM
                            mclaincausey
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                            I have to disagree with your school on that one. All risk, zero upside. They're under no obligation to give a straight answer on that and are likely to view you as a 9 to 5er. In general, asking questions that are about self interest over the interests of your potential employer doesn't make much sense to me. Ask a recruiter and they'll tell you the same. If this is an important enough concern (in a first interview, no less) then you can ask things like "take me through a typical day in the role" to derive this kind of information.

                            Think it, be it.

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                              Snowy
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                              @jdl1279:

                              You have to have a peculiar sense of entertainment Snowy.

                              Yeah I know. I get made fun of all the time. My friday nights = sit @ home and read about process development (and surf forums ;))

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                                Seul
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                                So what?.. I read about beers and surf forums.  😉

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                                  Snowy
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                                  and cute piglets, right? 😉

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                                  • SeulS
                                    Seul
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                                    Only during my break…

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                                      Snowy
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                                      Boom, life lesson. Only look @ cute piglets in your break.

                                      (PS Mega, how'd you go?)

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                                      • Megatron1505M
                                        Megatron1505
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                                        It's not until Friday dude, and I'm still waiting for them to tell me a time. Being a small business and being based in Mansfield I can assume that organisation might not be their strong point.

                                        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                          Snowy
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                                          I should lern2read as a life skill, soz.

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                                          • veloaudioV
                                            veloaudio
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                                            Not much more to add over what had already been said but when I conduct interviews, I look for someone who is confident, but not overly, and has vision and forward thinking. I also want a track record of meeting goals and business commitments. Real examples are important, i.e. you saved current company x amount of money by reducing steps in a process, increased production by x or decreased defects by x. If you're uncomfortable using real numbers convert them to percentages.

                                            It sounds like you have the experience and skill set they want.
                                            Do some homework on the company and ask questions about where the company is headed (or maybe you know from your research) and tell them how you can help them achieve those goals.

                                            Good luck Mega!

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