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    grandmasterben
    Joined: 27 Aug 2011

    @Chiba:

    Can't really fathom any reason for FW to be limited to people over 25…...

    A lot of their clothes seem to be meant to be tucked, and imo a lot of their pants/trousers vary pretty noticeably from the 5 pocket layout that's the "norm".  They all still look great, but for me at least it's a little too "mature", kind of like how mister freedom is.

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      seanocono
      Joined: 17 Oct 2012

      Above and beyond, fellas.  Thanks, again.

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        Superfluous
        Banned
        Joined: 12 Feb 2014

        @grandmasterben:

        A lot of their clothes seem to be meant to be tucked

        I own several FW shirts and have never tucked in any of them.

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          grandmasterben
          Joined: 27 Aug 2011

          Just a personal observation, we all have them!  Here's a shot of when I visited their tokyo headquarters!

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            Chiba J.
            Joined: 15 Oct 2011

            Ben, which FW shirts do you see as meant to be tucked in? I also own several FW shirts but none of them need to be tucked in.

            You're right that FW has a few lines of more formalish wear, and that some of it could be harder for a young guy without a lot of grativas to pull off.

            But…..

            1. FW has a massively deep line-up (deeper than any small clothing brand I'm aware of) so it's not really fair to push them into one box.

            2. Tucking your shirt in only weakly correlates with age.

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              demonito
              Joined: 27 Apr 2010

              i tuck all my shirts in and im young.. i have a short leg. so i tuck it in .

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                grandmasterben
                Joined: 27 Aug 2011

                I'm not too familiar with the brand so it's entirely possible I'm incorrect, but for instance here's what I saw after a cursory search

                The curved hems look to me like you should tuck but again I don't know everything…

                And Ed by young I mean really young like teenagers etc; I thought I could have different stuff in my wardrobe but I ended up selling my mister freedom shirts since I just didn't feel like me when tucked!

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                  Superfluous
                  Banned
                  Joined: 12 Feb 2014

                  @grandmasterben:

                  The curved hems look to me like you should tuck but again I don't know everything…

                  Interesting.  The curved hem screams to me do NOT tuck.

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                    grandmasterben
                    Joined: 27 Aug 2011

                    Dif strokes then… personally, i like my shirts to pretty much mirror the length of my troso

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                      mclaincausey
                      見習いボス
                      Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                      That's not a "different strokes" thing, flat bottom hems are intended not to be tucked, this other kind is intended for tucking. That doesn't mean you have to, just sharing the sartorial intent of that kind of a shirt tail.

                      Think it, be it.

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                        Chiba J.
                        Joined: 15 Oct 2011

                        I understand what you're getting at Ben, and actually had some similar concerns at one point. But I've since changed my mind completely.

                        Let's take FW's "Trackwalker" shirt as case study. This is one of their best and most popular designs, and one that they produce in a wide range of fabrics (including the very popular wabash). It has a curved hem and either side of the hem is also rounded on the front. It's a classic and classy design (the full name for this shirt includes the date 1911). And one that can seem a bit odd at first. Truth is though that it looks very good when worn.

                        The real issue isn't with the curved hem, but with the length. Some of FW's shirts have quite long hems (i.e. Conductor), but the Trackwalker is not all that long. The above shirt is probably a size 15 and the length is 74cm. For many shorter people that will mean tucking in. But I've seen others wear that length very well (for example the model above.)

                        For me the Trackwalker is about perfect length. And its nicely curved hem is my new standard.

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                          mclaincausey
                          見習いボス
                          Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                          True–though you would almost never model a shirt tucked in because prospective buyers need to see the whole shirt. That the placket ends above the belt line indicates to me this was designed as a tucker--though it looks fine untucked.

                          Think it, be it.

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                            Chiba J.
                            Joined: 15 Oct 2011

                            MCL, I wouldn't disagree that this style of placket and hem was originally meant to be worn tucked in, but it's more difficult to say that the contemporary re-inventors of this shirt designed it to be worn tucked in. I don't think I've ever seen any of the guys from FW do that.

                            Also, my other favorite shirt, NC's British Officers Shirt, has the same placket style, and I've never seen Nigel wear it tucked in.

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                              mclaincausey
                              見習いボス
                              Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                              ^Very true, TBH I was thinking more of the early 20th century design than the actual FW piece.

                              I almost never tuck and most of my shirts have "tuck" hems–so I'm mainly talking about the original intent of that kind of hem acting as a shirt stay more that what we're supposed to do with them. The only button-down shirt I always tuck (back to your point about body length) is a very long-bodied Mister Freedom Ranch Hand Shirt I bought from you.

                              Think it, be it.

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                                Chiba J.
                                Joined: 15 Oct 2011

                                Indeed. It's one of the many design details that have strayed from their original function.

                                And to length we would also need to add width. The MF shirt isn't really all that long but the bottom hem tends to billowing. (I saw one site that describes it as "slim fit", to which I wholeheartedly disagree).

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                                  veloaudio
                                  Raw and Unwashed
                                  Joined: 9 Dec 2012

                                  We're is the best place to buy FW stuff if I'm in the US?

                                  Love this piece:
                                  http://instagram.com/p/vQkGGXJKby/

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                                    seanocono
                                    Joined: 17 Oct 2012

                                    ^I actually just picked up that exact shirt in black salt & pepper in a 17.5. It's really nice, although a little lighter than I expected.

                                    There are some links posted a couple pages back with stores that sell FW. You will most likely have to order from Japan.

                                    EDIT: It looks like the Instagram Hammersmith is a flannel, where mine is a chambray.

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                                      veloaudio
                                      Raw and Unwashed
                                      Joined: 9 Dec 2012

                                      Thanks sean. I think Poncho and Lefty is getting ready to take my money.

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                                        seanocono
                                        Joined: 17 Oct 2012

                                        Score! Let us know how it all works out.

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                                          Chiba J.
                                          Joined: 15 Oct 2011

                                          I think buying from straight from Japan would be a much much better deal.

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